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DEATH BY GOVERNMENT: GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER

DEATH BY GOVERNMENT: GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER
All told, governments killed more than 262 million people in the 20th century outside of wars, according to University of Hawaii political science professor R.J. Rummel. Just to give perspective on this incredible murder by government, if all these bodies were laid head to toe, with the average height being 5', then they would circle the earth ten times. Also, this democide murdered 6 times more people than died in combat in all the foreign and internal wars of the century. Finally, given popular estimates of the dead in a major nuclear war, this total democide is as though such a war did occur, but with its dead spread over a century

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Thursday, May 19, 2011

Assassination nation: Are there any limits on President Obama's license to kill? As part of its war against violent extremism, the Obama administration now claims a right to kill Americans without a trial, without notice, and without any chance for targets to legally object.

How much evidence should the US government be obliged to show before it kills an American citizen?
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None, according to the Obama administration.
And how much evidence should the government be obliged to possess of an American’s wrongdoing before officially targeting them for killing?
That’s a secret, according to the Obama team.
As part of its war against violent extremism, the Obama administration now claims a right to kill Americans without a trial, without notice, and without any chance for targets to legally object. On May 6, the US government launched a drone attack to try to kill a US citizen in Yemen. The Obama administration alleges that Anwar al-Awlaki, an American born Muslim cleric, helped spark killings at Fort Hood, Texas, and an attempt to blow up a jetliner in 2009. Mr. Awlaki might be a four-star bad guy, but government press releases and background briefings have not previously been sufficient to justify capital punishment. The drone attack failed to terminate Awlaki, though two other people were killed.
The US government has admitted that it has added the names of other Americans to a list for targeted killing. The American Civil Liberties Union sued last year to compel the government “to disclose the legal standard it uses to place US citizens on government kill lists,” but was thwarted when the Obama administration claimed the entire program was a “state secret.” Last December, federal Judge John Bates dismissed the ACLU’s lawsuit because “there are circumstances in which the Executive’s unilateral decision to kill a US citizen overseas” is “judicially unreviewable.”

Presidential power grabs

Unfortunately, the current assassination program is merely an extension of presidential power grabs going back into the last century. In 1998, President Clinton launched a missile strike against a Sudan pill producer after US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed. After the US government failed to offer any evidence linking its target in Sudan to the terrorist attacks, the owners of Sudan’s largest pharmaceutical factory sued for compensation for damage. In 2009, the US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit decreed: “President Clinton, in his capacity as commander in chief, fired missiles at a target of his choosing to pursue a military objective he had determined was in the national interest. Under the Constitution, this decision is immune from judicial review.”
Evidently, as long as the president or his spokesmen claim benevolent motives, any killings they authorize are legally sacrosanct.
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Congress has done nothing to examine this new presidential prerogative. Instead, many members of Congress favor codifying this power.
On May 11, the House Armed Services Committee passed a defense reauthorization bill that included a vague provision entitling the president to attack “Al Qaeda, the Taliban and associated forces.” But the executive branch can define “associated forces” any way it pleases. Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) complained that “declaring a global war against nameless individuals, organizations, and nations ‘associated’ with the Taliban and al Qaeda, as well as those playing a supporting role in their efforts ... would appear to grant the President near unfettered authority to initiate military action around the world without further congressional approval.” Dozens of members co-signed Conyers’s complaint.
The Obama administration acts as if the executive branch deserves “unreviewable authority to target and kill any US citizen it deems a suspect of terrorism anywhere,” according to Center for Constitutional Rights attorney Pardiss Kebriae. But the feds have a horrible batting average on accurately identifying terrorist suspects. In the six weeks after the 9/11 attacks, the US government rounded up 1,200 people as suspected terrorists or terrorist supporters. None of the detainees proved to have links to the 9/11 attacks. Federal judges have rejected the government’s case against most of the Guantanamo detainees who succeeded in getting a hearing in court.

Scary precedents

Some Americans may think the president’s license to kill is simply a temporary tactic for the war on terror. But precedents being established today will be invoked by future commanders-in-chief who may have a much broader “enemies lists” or who have no qualms about expanding the action from the Arab Street to Main Street. As long as government spokesmen label the victims as terrorist suspects, many Americans might cheer “pro-freedom” assassinations no matter where they occur.
Killings based solely on presidential commands radically transform the relation of the government to the citizenry. Americans cannot expect to have good presidents if presidents are permitted to act like czars.
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  • I believe this has been going on unsanctioned for a long time. It's only recently that this has become publically known due to the internet and because of massive moral corruption in our leadership, which has leaked out into the general population so that many people condone this sort of behavior. But let's be frank, shall we? Murder without due process only happens in countries where the monarchy is all-powerful and the citizens are not free. Being able to put citizens to death on a whim is not the action of a free nation that believes in personal independence, it is the priviledge of a dictatorship type of government. So what does that make us? Just because someone says we are free doesn't make it so. The government already takes a huge percentage of the money I work hard for without my consent. It seems to me the US government is not really in the business of protecting it's citizens and our way of life, but exploiting and ruling its citizens. THAT is what I see every day. Remember, even a dictator has to have the censent of the majority of it citizens. Otherwise, everyone would overthrow the government. I predict that the US government will outlaw personal arms very soon in the name of "national security." When this happens, citizens will not have the right to vote on this, just like they don't get to vote asking if the government should have the right to kill American citizens without due process. This is history repeating itself, only on our continent.
  • Will Harper 2 days ago
    The govt lies.  It makes mistakes everyday and then tries to cover them up.  The very notion that the govt can, without due process, put someone born here on a "kill list"  and blast away in some foreign country is in complete opposition to not only US law but International law as well.  This has nothing to do with whether someone deserves to be killed.  Laws giving citizenship, civil liberties and basic legal protections are in place precisely to protect us from a totalitarian govt.  If Obama doesn't get this, he doesn't deserve to be President and he certainly should drop the pretense of being a "Christian".
  • Will, is you concern with the Office of the President of the United States or with Barack Obama?  It seems that you're a little too zealous about accusing the President and not too balanced about the responsibility that that Office carries to protect the citizens of the United States.  I won't try to make a legalistic argument to your comments; it seems all too clear that you're not about a dialogue to solve a problem.  You're just sure that Obama is wrong.  That won't move our country forward or restore anyone's rights that were taken away when the War on Terror started in 2001.
  • Obama is wrong, and as a "constitutional scholar" he should know it.  Maybe he does and doesn't care.  I'm absolutely concerned, not so much about Obama, but the precedent it establishes for future administrations.  Have you noticed?  Every successive administration pushes the envelope a little farther; using the state secrets argument, war, terror, etc as justification.  I, like many others, believe the Executive has far overstepped its authority.  See pre-emptive war, torture,domestic wiretapping, assasination squads, selective prosecution, etc.
  • Presidential power is a topic worthy of greater understanding by all of us, Will.  Legal scholars have published a great deal of analysis. William P. Marshall, Kenan Professor of Law, University of North Carolina, has an article in a Boston University Law Review ("Eleven Reasons Presidential Power Inevitably Expands and Why It Matters") that is worth reading.  Also, at this link is a brief summary of another discussion of the unitary executive theory compared to the framer's intent for a duty-based theory that best serves the rule-of-law concept so many of us believe is fundamental to America's strength.  Like the constant little drip of water over time washing away the soil under the faucet, we have witnessed erosion of that strength.  There is ample blame to go around, but it is ultimately our fault as voters who don't pay attention and tighten the spiquit now and then at election time.

    http://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?collection=journals&handle=hein.journals/flr78&div=6&id=&page=
  • David_McClurkin 2 days ago
    Hasn't Anwar al-Awlaki, an American born Muslim cleric, removed himself from the chief benefits of America's judicial process by remaining offshore?  As a dual citizen of the U. S. and Yemen, if he would just return to the land of his birth here, he should definitely be permitted to realize the benefits of trial by jury, etc.  Perhaps his guaranteed-safe return to stand trial could be arranged.  Is this too simple and totally at odds with international legal concepts?  Possible or not?
  • So you are saying that an American born citizen gives up their nationally recognized rights when they reside overseas?  Where is this substantiated in law?
  • Not being a lawyer or very well-versed in international law myself, my comment stems from the fact that the United States maintains diplomatic relations, but does not have extradition treaties with Yemen.  With no status as a diplomat of either country, it seems the fellow has fled to a country of convenience more than simply be residing overseas.  Dual citizenship sounds very exotic, but the time comes for such a one to declare which nationality they are.  The recognized right to trial in the U.S. presumes that an individual is in place here (voluntarily or not) for such trial. Anwar al-Awlaki seems to have decided not to return voluntarily.  What would you have our government do under these circumstances?
  • The rule of law should not be subject to expedience.  Barring extradition, there is little that our govt can legally do.  By legally, I mean constitutionally and within the limits of international agreements, which carry the weight of law, according to the constitution.
  • I thought he was a kook too, but the polls are showing that he's now the frontrunner in the GOP Primary and has the best chance against Obama. Learn all about him where I did, http://ronpaulflix.com/ or google Ron Paul Flix.
  • The problem of what to do with Americans who turn against their country and try to destroy it cannot be solved by murdering them when they are out of the country.  A better way would be to revoke their citizenship when enough evidence exists to do so, and make sure that intelligence keeps watch on their activities.  It also seems according to other media sources, that foreigners with the wrong intentions have been granted easy access (in the past and probably the present) to American colleges so they  can infiltrate and radicalize fellow students.Khalib Sheik Mohammad better known as the "mastermind" of 9/11 was just such a student; There were also plenty of American haters hanging around at mosques who supported the hijackers when they were here.  We should rigorously defend our borders by beefing up our intelligence services for that purpose.
  • David_McClurkin 1 day ago in reply to mag2
    mag2 - It is thoughtful to put forth a "better way."  My understanding is, however, that current US law forbids the government from taking your citizenship from you against your will, but it does permit you to give it up voluntarily. So-called "black ops" - such as assassinations - are never easy to decide on or to carry out. The real question here is the correctness of an extrajudicial execution of anyone regardless of nationality.  Words are weapons and Anwar al-Awlaki is well armed and has used his weapons in effective ways from his remote location to kill and maim Americans in this country. Battlefield justice is never a simple matter.
  • "Words are weapons and Anwar al-Awlaki is well armed and has used his
    weapons in effective ways from his remote location to kill and maim
    Americans in this country. Battlefield justice is never a simple matter"

    All true.  Now replace Anwar al-Awlaki with Obama, Americans with...oh, there's so many to choose from...let's say Pakistanis.  Now read it again.  Battlefield justice?  I would say, ain't no such thing.    Battlefield only contains the dead and the survivors.  Sadly, the US increasingly employs a convenient moral relativism regarding the "war on terror".  It's okay for us to reach out and kill someone and who knows how many others with a drone strike, but if anyone else would attempt the same on our soil or against out forces, they are horrible, radical terrorists with no appreciation for innocent civilians.  Can't have it both ways. 
  • Jacques666 1 day ago
    How's that "change you can believe in" mantra working out for you guys?
  • Why do we even need a President? It seems do be a holdover from the days of Kings. The office has turned into an elected dictatorship that is immune to all laws. The people have concentrated too much hope into one person which is bound to disappoint their unrealistic expectations. Abolish the Presidency and the people will concentrate their hopes in something more likely to achieve fulfillment.

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