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DEATH BY GOVERNMENT: GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER

DEATH BY GOVERNMENT: GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER
All told, governments killed more than 262 million people in the 20th century outside of wars, according to University of Hawaii political science professor R.J. Rummel. Just to give perspective on this incredible murder by government, if all these bodies were laid head to toe, with the average height being 5', then they would circle the earth ten times. Also, this democide murdered 6 times more people than died in combat in all the foreign and internal wars of the century. Finally, given popular estimates of the dead in a major nuclear war, this total democide is as though such a war did occur, but with its dead spread over a century

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Monday, March 28, 2011

The Kill TeamHow U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan murdered innocent civilians and mutilated their corpses – and how their officers failed to stop them. Plus: An exclusive look at the war crime photos censored by the Pentagon


The Kill Team

How U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan murdered innocent civilians and mutilated their corpses – and how their officers failed to stop them. Plus: An exclusive look at the war crime photos censored by the Pentagon

Cpl. Jeremy Morlock with Staff Sgt. David Bram
By Mark Boal
MARCH 27, 2011 10:00 PM ET
Early last year, after six hard months soldiering in Afghanistan, a group of American infantrymen reached a momentous decision: It was finally time to kill a haji.
Among the men of Bravo Company, the notion of killing an Afghan civilian had been the subject of countless conversations, during lunchtime chats and late-night bull sessions. For weeks, they had weighed the ethics of bagging "savages" and debated the probability of getting caught. Some of them agonized over the idea; others were gung-ho from the start. But not long after the New Year, as winter descended on the arid plains of Kandahar Province, they agreed to stop talking and actually pull the trigger.
Bravo Company had been stationed in the area since summer, struggling, with little success, to root out the Taliban and establish an American presence in one of the most violent and lawless regions of the country. On the morning of January 15th, the company's 3rd Platoon – part of the 5th Stryker Brigade, based out of Tacoma, Washington – left the mini-metropolis of tents and trailers at Forward Operating Base Ramrod in a convoy of armored Stryker troop carriers. The massive, eight-wheeled trucks surged across wide, vacant stretches of desert, until they came to La Mohammad Kalay, an isolated farming village tucked away behind a few poppy fields.
 
To provide perimeter security, the soldiers parked the Strykers at the outskirts of the settlement, which was nothing more than a warren of mud-and-straw compounds. Then they set out on foot. Local villagers were suspected of supporting the Taliban, providing a safe haven for strikes against U.S. troops. But as the soldiers of 3rd Platoon walked through the alleys of La Mohammad Kalay, they saw no armed fighters, no evidence of enemy positions. Instead, they were greeted by a frustratingly familiar sight: destitute Afghan farmers living without electricity or running water; bearded men with poor teeth in tattered traditional clothes; young kids eager for candy and money. It was impossible to tell which, if any, of the villagers were sympathetic to the Taliban. The insurgents, for their part, preferred to stay hidden from American troops, striking from a distance with IEDs.
While the officers of 3rd Platoon peeled off to talk to a village elder inside a compound, two soldiers walked away from the unit until they reached the far edge of the village. There, in a nearby poppy field, they began looking for someone to kill. "The general consensus was, if we are going to do something that fucking crazy, no one wanted anybody around to witness it," one of the men later told Army investigators.
The poppy plants were still low to the ground at that time of year. The two soldiers, Cpl. Jeremy Morlock and Pfc. Andrew Holmes, saw a young farmer who was working by himself among the spiky shoots. Off in the distance, a few other soldiers stood sentry. But the farmer was the only Afghan in sight. With no one around to witness, the timing was right. And just like that, they picked him for execution.
He was a smooth-faced kid, about 15 years old. Not much younger than they were: Morlock was 21, Holmes was 19. His name, they would later learn, was Gul Mudin, a common name in Afghanistan. He was wearing a little cap and a Western-style green jacket. He held nothing in his hand that could be interpreted as a weapon, not even a shovel. The expression on his face was welcoming. "He was not a threat," Morlock later confessed.

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  • Alan Miller

    The current foreign policy is to prevent groups of Arabs from organizing against us. There is no war real or made up to "win". If and when oil becomes unimportant or non existent will will leave. I give that another 50 to 75 years for new technology to emerge. Until then we will keep stirring the pot. 
    This kind of sh-t happens in every war. I don't think anyone is really surprised to read this article.
  • Brian Galyean

    YEEEEEEHAW!!!! I'm an AMERIKAN!!!! I'm a REDNECK RETARDICAN WHO LOVES MY GUNS, NASCAR, WOMEN, AND LOVES TO KILL ME SOME ARABS...ANYTHING WEARIN' SHEETS AIN'T MY FRIEND....YEEEEHAW!!!! LOL silly amy boys with guns
  • Jose Quiles

    Those cr1m1nals don't sound as if they are stressed out.
    When we create excuses for war crimes then we become part of the problem.
    Imagine if we had used the same arguments for Naz1 Germany.
  • Nurul Choudhury

    What was done was terrible, but there is an old saying "if you fight dragons long enough you become the dragon." This is the price we pay for wars without end. In 2001/2002 Afghanistan was a problem, but even at that time invading Afghanistan was an unwise move, as the Russians will tell you. Most people do know right from wrong, and clearly some do not; yet if you put people under stress day in day out we will all eventually break - and clearly these soldiers broke.

    I hope, given the same circumstances I would do the right thing, but I cannot know that. The greatest blame goes to those in charge, if you turn a blind eye, there thing will happen and we will LOOSE.
  • Gregory Harris

    HELP US ALL. GOD WE NEED YOU NOW MORE THAN EVER! I HATED GEORGE BUSH AND ALL HE AND CHENNEY STOOD FOR GREAT HES GONE LET US NOT FORGET HE SHOULD BE TRID AS A WAR CRIMIANL FOR LETTING THIS HAPPEN UNDER HIS WATCH!!! GOTTA LOVE OBAMA!
  • Doris Enow

    The war in Afghanistan, if we can call it that, since it was never a declared war, goes on now already twice as long as the WWII did. We send the same troops over and over again to fight the invisible enemy. Over and over they see first hand how their buddies, comrades and friends get murdered by invisible suicide belts and bombs. And what was once a body of a young vibrant person, only pieces of flesh are left over for the soldiers to pick up on the roadside and to clean them up. When this happens to a young man or woman over and over.again....the part of the human brain, where reasoning, emphathy, sympathy for the next person reside and exist , will be replaced by hate, revenge, helplessness, grief, and the feeling of being lost and the feeling of having to do something to counter act the numbness. All wars had atrocities for that same reason. We don't send criminals to war, perhaps once in a great while one slips through the cracks, but we bring home from the battle field strangers. Rolling Stone Magazine is I am sure aware of that, that there are always some rotten apples in a big basket. But sensationalizing an already explosive story putting our soldiers in further danger, is un-american for whatever cause it is published.. These kind of stories are mostly printed for greed for more headlines, and also to satisfy a hidden cause in this case the far left cause. Most Americans don't want this war, and Rolling Stone Magazine , besides sowing more hate, will not change anything . The change has to come from Washington. Rolling Stone magazine in my opinion encouraged the election of the leader we have now in Washington. And I have not heard from Rolling Stone magazine anything about the wrongful invasion in Libya. I guess the magazine waits until there is more sensationalism to the story in Libya. We definitely should install the draft again. So editors and writers and couch reporters, like the ones in Rolling Stone Magazine will learn the real truth about war. By the way I grew up during WWII in Germany so I believe I can have a solid opinion. This country should have the draft again, for the public to learn again how it feels to care for your country. This is still the best country on the planet. I have to come from Germany to remind the editors on that. I am a 74 year old lady, but Rolling Stone Magazine can't pull the wool over my eyes. Besides, this story was publishe long before in German's political Magazine the "Spiegel". So I wonder if you could call this story partial plagiarism. Doris Enow, Killeen, Texas.........
  • Gwendolyn Alù

    This is just hurts my heart in the worst way. I want so much to be supportive of our men and women in the armed services and I know that there are many good people there that are trying to do a good job under horrific circumstances. And I've met a few service people that make me proud that they are out there serving their country and representing me. But there are so many reasons to be ashamed. 

    The fact that we allowed our government to lower its standards when accepting people in the service only serves to exacerbate the bad situation and bad goes to worse. These soldiers have lost their humanity. They've stopped seeing Afghanies as people, people who only want an end to 40 years of war, hardship and misery. I don't care if this is what happens in war. I expect better from my people. They represent us to the outside world, often times in places where they will never meet another American other than an American soldier. The fact that this wasn't investigated from the outset is shameful. That it was covered up actively by the Pentagon is worse. Every person involved in this cover up should be dishonorably discharged at the very least. This has to go all the way up the chain of command without exception. Either we are country of laws or we aren't. And start pulling out of Iraq and Afghanistan now. I recognize the possibility of a power vacuum and that Al-Qaeda will probably again but we are making things worse and paying for it at the same time. What on earth are we going to do with the people who come back to out communities after committing these terrible crimes. I'd be interested to know what became of those men who were involved in the massacre at My Lai in 68'? What kind of fathers, husbands and members of their communities were they? Can they be redeemed as human beings? 

    Unless we, or another member of NATO is being directly invaded, I don't want to see the US involved in one more foreign war, certainly not involving ground troops. We just don't have a good track record.
  • Doris Enow

    "The " Spiegel", Germany's most popular ,most political Magazine, brought this story first. I have to add that it's never good enough to bring a story, but it has to be sensationalized to the utmost, to satisfy the greed of the publisher and in this case to make propaganda for a far left cause , in this case namely to stop the war in Afghanistan. Most Americans today don't believe we should still be in this unwinable , murderous , stupid action. Having said that, we also should care about our country and our good young soldiers enough , not to expose them to more danger than they are already exposed to. That this article creates more powerful reason to hate in the arab world is without question. Rolling Stone would have made a better point to question our reason why we kill Libyan people then expose a few rotten apples in the big basket , knowing very well that they are not more or less criminals like we have everyday in our society. We have the same ruthless murder on pregnant women , children happen here every day, but Rolling Stone magazine doesn't fint this offensive enough to publish these stories. But creating sensationalism coupled with hate and fear seems just more sensational. We all know that killing defenseless citizens in war or peace is wrong and deplorable. Murders have been committed in every war that ever was fought. The Afghanistan war is now going on, twice as long and more than our WWII. These troops rotated now many times over to Afghanistan. And see murder from the opposition every day. When your best buddy and friend gets blown up to pieces from a suicide bomb over and over....gets kidnapped and tortured and killed in the most treachures way, the human brain will replace hate , revenge, helplessness in a part of the brain where reasoning, sympathy, emphathy usually are present. I am an old 74 year old lady, and only had some education , but I even know that much . I went through WWII and came to this country because I never wanted to see war, shooting and killing again. And when I came to this new country I saw a country that was pulling together on one string. Whether it was Life Magazine, The Post Magazine it was a joy to read and get informed. Today;s magazines don't care about this country as far as unity is concerned. They are bringing this country down into an unethical sludge pool. It is one thingto report a problem, it's another to sensationalize it to the point it helps the very enemy we supposed to fight. There is no doubt this country should ahve the draft. That people like the editors of Rolling Stones, the sons of all senators and Congressman and the general public should have to join, to get some national guts into their bones and appreciate again what this wonderful country , that still is like no other, is all about....I have to come all the way from Germany to make a case for this country, about how much we should care for her. Doris Enow, Killeen, Texas......
  • Patrick Quinn

    I don't get the accusations in regard to the motorcycle video. If this was an attack against armed men, then the only thing wrong was the fact that the video was shared with the Press. While this might be against procedure, I don't think that sharing it with the press was wrong.
  • William Blow

    what else is new, you put white racist men around people of color and the results are always the same, innocent people being killed, tortured, rape and just like a regular script, the whiteman gets away with it and it's always the person of color fault. Then they act like they can't understand why people call the whiteman the DEVIL, just look at the whiteman history and it speaks for itself!!!!!!! No offense to the good whitemen out here b/c I know a lot of cool guys.
  • Frances Aiello

    These thugs are low class people. The Army has had to sink to a new low to get a caliber of troops like this. They should be held to a hirer standard. It is a real shame to those troops who are professionals. I have been around the military all my life and NEVER NEVER have seen or heard about atrosaties as theses. We have got to stop this behavior!
  • Allen Whitt

    As an American and a former Navy officer, I am astounded and shamed by these pointless and brutal murders. I am not naive. I know that some wars must be fought, and such things happen in all wars, but that fact in no way justifies them. War tends to brutalize and dehumanize people on all sides. After almost a century and a half, we are still suffering from the bitter and wasteful legacy of the US Civil War and so-called Reconstruction in the South. Wars are most definitely not video games (some of which now portray war and violence and killing as such) but flesh-and-blood events that extract terrible and lasting costs. They should be entered into with extreme caution, and--at the very least--soldiers must be given proper training and guidance not only in matters of technique and conditioning, but also in real knowledge about the waste, destruction. enormous human consequences of it, and the need for strong and decisive leadership and supervision. Wars are mostly fought by the poor and working class, not by the well-to-do or the people who make the big decision to enter a war. Far too often it is old, white men who consign the young, the less-advantaged, and minorities to fight and bear the largest part of the consequences. We must all keep these things in mind in order to carefully THINK and DISCUSS what we are doing. Is it worth it?
  • Cathy Cobb Edwins

    How do we bring our young troops home and expect them to assimilate back into society and live a "normal" life after being exposed to scuh atrocities? I think this is actually the larger issue here.
  • David Rookie Fehlman

    Don't let these soldiers that served in the most southern part of Kandahar reflect on all of the Professional Soldiers that serve in hotter combat zones. There is a good deal of fighting in the area of FOB Ramrod, yet thousands of other soldiers that see combat everyday in helmand, zabul, khost, and other provinces seem to be able to keep things as professional as they can. As a soldier, turn them into the Afghan National Police, they are criminals and should be made an example to those who cant keep their military bearing.
  • Joanna Hirsch

    I've always wondered, how can anyone blame the Afghans for being "terrorists". If this were happening in my country and I was filled with anger and frustration and had nothing to lose I'd be one too. I don't support our troops one bit, everytime I hear that phrase it makes me nauseous. It's kind of like supporting my abusive pedo father and covering up for him because he's "family". I hope the number of military suicides grows...
  • Jeff Phillips II

    If these had been pictures of American soldiers held up as trophies by Afghan people, right wingers would be up in arms demanding action!!
  • Cathy Cobb Edwins

    This is what happens when you train and allow people to kill; most of them can’t handle it. Our wars have changed starting with Vietnam. We are no longer fighting a soldier in a Third Reich uniform, a known enemy. What is our mission in Afghanistan anyway? Are we trying to defeat the Taliban, find Bin Laden, rout Al Qaeda?” We did the same thing in Iraq, and we’ll do it in Libya. WE need to come home and take care of our own problems.
  • David Schappert

    All "he" who enter here?
    AND, they don't read!
  • Tutta Labella

    What if they got the same treatment back home? In a camp with some nice people, ready to welcome them home? Just a thought. I don´t think more violence is the solution. The question is, why do we have people, today, who are seen as animals, while real "animals" allow themselves to decide who´s worth to live.
  • Georgina Lee

    Totally agree with Dave Natale. How can anyone with any bit of humanity or morals in them say "this is not that bad". Just because it's "normal" for a war doesn't make it right. I am absolutely disgusted by this kind of reaction and makes me lose faith in humanity.
  • Sameer Tripathi

    People who have tried to hush this incident up must also be brought to trial. What a shame.
    These soldiers are an affront o humanity and they should be treated like the rabid dogs that they are.
  • Michael Saveme Silverman

    what was that word RON PAUL used??? O yeah "BLOWBACK"!
  • Carrie Kristin

    This is one more piece of evidence why war should be a last resort. It's true that atrocities like this have happened in conflicts everywhere forever. 
    Basically, it's an issue of hate and failure of empathy. If we want the world to be a better place, we can try to reduce those flaws in ourselves, and push for laws and legislation that minimize opportunities for these flaws to rear their ugly heads (war being a prime example). But at the same time, regarding anyone who generalizes in negative ways about Americans after reading this piece, that strikes me as hate and a failure of empathy too, much milder than what these people did but leading down the same road. Let's focus on the solution instead - fixing ourselves and pushing our politicians to make better legislation and policy.
  • Evgeny Filatov

    Mark, as a citizen of Russia I want to tell you that you are doing a good job to keep not only your fellow countrymen informed, but the rest of the world as well.
  • Rory Ryan

    Omg, I'm speechless. These pointless wars needs to end. There's no such thing as winning.
  • Jeroen Okhuijsen

    From Holland ; F^ck U Yankee,s
  • Dave Natale

    This breaks my heart in so many ways, but what disgusts me even more are the comments by people who say "It's no big deal, it's war, get over it." Have you all lost so much of your humanity and your morals that this kind of mockery of life means nothing? War is one thing, desecrating human remains is another - you show yourselves to be no better than the supposed enemy, so what exactly are we fighting for? This dishonor that these men have brought on themselves, their families, the military and the country are disgusting. If they thought they were doing this to protect my freedom or my country, they were wrong.
  • John Elliott

    I honestly don't see this as all that bad. These types of action have been happening during every war ever to exist. When your in a place where the innocent and the fighters look the same to a good degree it all most seems easier to just kill everyone then you might live longer. I do think the hole trophy thing is kind of despicable.
  • Ramon Lao

    same stuff happened in vietnam. same stuff happened in every war in human history. get over it. im not downplaying the atrocities of what is being done. im just saying that this is no different than any war you have ever heard of in your life. the only difference between then and now is everyone has a freakin camera.
  • Simon Johnston

    Given the utter ignorance and sheer hatred and bigotry America's right wing has toward ALL Arabs and Persians - regardless of whether they're Muslim, Secular or Christian - I would not be surprised if almost every unit in the army turned out to use the killing innocent people as a morale booster and sport. The war hawks in America - that is, the majority of American's Republicans - openly state they consider all of 'them' to be, as the monstrous, cowardly idiots in this platoon say, "savages" - and enemies of America all. They do not believe there exists one innocent Arab person. They have made that perfectly clear. 
    The comparison that more and more people are making to Nazism is perfectly appropriate for this portion of American society, and their representatives in America's armed forces - and the evangelical 'pastors' who encourage them from the rear.
  • Anna Tomczak

    This is beyond disgusting. I am sickened and ashamed. Why is this being allowed to continue? This kind of thing makes me feel depressed and hopeless. The President MUST end these ridiculous and meaningless wars. I feel that the USA is totally and completely doomed.
  • Michael Gaw

    The culpability surely extends past the 'criminal masterminds' that are currently charged. The evidence overwhelmingly indicates that this is but the tip of the iceberg and unless action is taken to hold all officers, NCOs and other soldiers as accessories to murder, justice will not have been served and our efforts to win the hearts and minds of the Afghani civilians will begin to sink like the Titanic under the mounting allegations that are only to get worse in the near future. I can imagine the conditions that would force even the most patriotic and righteous soldiers to turn mental but this cannot and should not excuse their serial killings.
  • Graham Hamer

    It's time that America grew up! For years it openly supported the IRA (illegal terrorist organzation) just like Ghaddafi did. As long as the murders took place in Northern Ireland, it didn't matter. And yet (as has ultimatel been proven) the problem was a poliical one, not one that required bombs and bullets.

    Currently, no matter what atrocities Israel is responsible for, and no matter how much territory it steals from the Palistinians, Americans support them with weapons, money and politically.

    Time Americans started thinking about what effect they have on the opinions of the rest of the world. They are fast becoming the pariahs of the planet.
  • Sandy Liu

    Why isn't this atrocity displayed on the front page of major news sources, gee I wonder!? Instead, those "news" agencies focus attention on cr@p like "Prince William picks a cookie cake" or "Top 10 Grooming Myths." PATHETIC. I don't blame anyone who hates Americans. After viewing the videos and photos, I actually feel ashamed to be one also. It is sickening to know that our our taxes fund war after war and monsters like Jeremy Morlock while school teachers who have over 6+ years of experience are receiving pink slips, countless numbers of people are being put out of work, and healthcare is going down the to!let. 

    PS. Jeremy Morlock only received 24 years in prison....how is that allowed?! That insect should get life in solitary!!!
  • Sandy Liu

    Why isn't this atrocity displayed on the front page of major news sources, gee I wonder!? Instead, those "news" agencies focus attention on cr@p like "Prince William picks a cookie cake" or "Top 10 Grooming Myths." PATHETIC. I don't blame anyone who hates Americans. After viewing the videos and photos, I actually feel ashamed to be one also. It is sickening to know that our our taxes fund war after war and monsters like Jeremy Morlock while school teachers who have over 6+ years of experience are receiving pink slips, countless numbers of people are being put out of work, and healthcare is going down the to!let. 

    PS. Jeremy Morlock only received 24 years in prison....how is that allowed?! That insect should get life in solitary!!!
  • Frank Adam Brenner

    I wish nothing but harm and equal punishment for these cowards. Any man who kills a boy in cold blood deserves the wrath of god put upon him and his family. I hope all these gutless cowards get everything that is coming to them, ten fold. Amry of one, can stick it where the sun don't shine.
  • Jehan Mir

    This is nothing new for US Soldiers. There is a long history, going back centuries.

    In the recent history,U.­S. soldiers had machine-gu­nned 300 of helpless civilians, under the railway bridge at No Gun Ri. on July 26th,1950. Twelve (12) ex-U.S.. soldiers supported these facts and the claims made by South Korean survivors surroundin­g the massacre. Another had 100 died in a preceding air attack.

    The attack is similar to another massacre carried out later by U.S. troops in My Lai, Vietnam on March 16th 1968 when U.S. soldiers went on a rampage, raping, looting and killing as many as 400 unarmed Vietnamese civilians. Lt. Kelly was the incharge of this massacre and was pardoned by late President Richard Nixon. 

    Karma is finally catching up with US. 
  • Keith Tarrant

    The honor of our troops and our country now depend on how we deal justice to these troops who've disobeyed their president and congress, disobeyed military law, and violated their country's national honor in the worst way possible.

    If we accept what these troops did as "okay", we become accomplices in bringing dishonor to the entire US military by accepting accepting cold blooded war criminals as acceptable US soldiers.

    We dishonor our all troops by setting their minimum standard for behavior at the criminal level.

    Every group of a few hundred thousand men is going to have some bad apples. Honor depends on disowning and fairly punishing these bad apples when they are discovered.

    Our national honor depends on disowning and fairly punishing the war criminals within our troops.
  • Frank Adam Brenner

    Get out of this mess Obama! I do not want my tax money going to pay these goons to act like fools. Let them come home and work at McDonalds. Let them "kill" my supersized fries and a shake. These clowns should never be given guns. And what is cello rock? I think these "men" should be "disciplined" just for their horrible taste in music. Go make a hamburger Sgt. Moron.
  • Lisa Reynolds Davies

    These horrific acts by our soldiers makes us no better than HITLER...
  • James Hamilton

    How amazing, a report on cruelty going on in war zones. By the Army too! This seems like old news since humans have been murdering each other since they discovered rocks and sticks could provide enough force to end their neighbor's life. I just see this story as a leftist vehicle of taking a cheap jab at some right wingers. I really like the description of one of the guys as a "brother of Bristol Palin's friend". Does that even matter? Where is the relevance? Pick any war in human history and you can find acts of inhumanity. Japan vs China in WW2, Vietnam, China vs Tibet, South America vs Cortez, Russia vs its own people, the Philippines vs USA, France vs. England, the Crusades, Europe vs African , North Korea-- Golly, I could go on all day. Anyway, yeah, stuff can get pretty hairy in war -- everyone should know this. This article is essentially saying "grass is green" and people are responding with shock and awe that there are going to be civilian casualties. Am I supporting this war? Eh, I really don't think we should be there. Should we be totally crapping on every service member because of a few losers? No. The military is doing a lot of good out there across the globe and that should be recognized. Many troops don't go in to kill people, many go in to serve, get great benefits and educational perks that last until they are done with their term. My response to this article would be the Army, whether they like it or not -- probably needs to expand their prerequisites to prevent baddies from representing the US Gov't.
  • Kyle MacCallum

    This is beyond horrible.

    As an American citizen that supports our troops to the fullest I find this incredibly disturbing and disheartening and would not expect this from soldiers in our army.

    To many people on this page however, you are more ignorant than you claim us Americans to be. As soon as anything involving our soldiers comes up in the news the ignorant stereotypical American remarks come flying out from all directions regardless of wether or not it has ANYTHING to do with the actual event.

    It WAS NOT Mcdonalds and Ipads that caused this. 

    This DOES NOT represent the entire army, or rather the so called "army of murderers" some of you refer to all troops as.

    This is the product of an inhumane and brutal choice made by these disgusting invdividuals. 
    As an American I am appalled by this just as much as you non- Americans.
    Now is not the time to be throwing out ridiculous anti-America remarks that frankly, don't even make sense.
    Honestly, do you think we Americans support this atrocity? We are not a nation of war mongering fat redneck murderers. We are a "melting pot" of all races, religions, and cultures, and for non-Americans to spew such venom against a whole nation for a disgusting act of brutality (one that I would gladly see these soldiers put to death for) that was not done by our citizens is beyond ignorant. 

    SEPERATE NOTE TO Francisco Boni Neto: Saying you feel compelled to commit terrorist acts against innocent lives for the actions of these soldiers makes you no better than them. Your Ignorance astounds me. Grow up.


    back on point,

    we need to set our differences and stereotypical hatreds aside and get past our petty bitterness and put these murdering psycopaths down like the dogs they are!
  • Michael Franco

    Unfortunately this has been going on for every war. The atrocities will never be told in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and now here. Try to see it for what it is. We have seen the weak exploited in every possible way throughout time. You have to wonder now is there truly a God. How could a supreme being who supposedly created us just stand by and let this happen. These are the things that make you cynical.
  • Richard Pearce

    Do NOT dismiss this as a few bad apples, and a wish to coverup a mess made by them. As the Stanford Prison Experiment (and many real life examples) shows, this actually is normal human behaviour when a culture of permissive impunity is present.

    And do NOT dismiss this as only something that threatens Afghan and Iraqi civilians. Soldiers who participated in events like this, either as perpetrators or in covering up return to civilian life, and become your (and your children's) bosses, police, judges, and politicians.

    To protect your families, the American public needs to demand that not only those who participated directly be prosecuted, but message sent loud and clear across the military that it is the responsibility of everyone in the chain of command to see that such things are dealt with speedily. This means not just individual prosecutions, but a message ofgroup responsibility like retiring the colour of the brigade in disgrace. 
    The message also needs to be sent to the civilians who are charged with overseeing the military that they too have failed the American public.

    As a Canadian, let me point you to the 'Somalia Affair' as a case study in what SHOULD have happened, and a jumping off point in deciding what NEEDS to happen because those actions were not undertaken.
  • Todd Keller

    Disgusting. What a complete mess. I recently saw a documentary on HBO and a US air strike had killed some innocent afghan villagers. Some army folks paid a visit with the family member of the dead and paid them cash for the killings. Blood money. 

    We will NEVER 'win the hearts and minds' of these people. We need to leave and direct these billions of dollars towards education, healthcare, aid to unemployment etc. 

    Just absolutely so disappointed in our country. Idiotic.
  • Ortho Stice

    They couldn't even get the Dante quote correct.
  • Gail Cerridwen

    OK, I'd been waiting and wondering--after reading a warning here--whether or not to see the photos. I remember Vietnam and how it came into our living rooms every day on TV. But our media has become so controlled that all we see now are flags and medals and the illusion that all US soldiers--by virtue of their uniforms--are good. I came back to post that I second the previous poster's warnings: to think long and heard before seeing these. I also want to say--especially after seeing the faces of these beautiful, innocent children and knowing what some of these soldiers suggested doing to assuage their boredom-- IF I WERE THERE, I'D BE KILLING THE US SOLDIERS IF I COULD. How do we imagine we'd react if we were invaded and treated/ thought of as less than human?? Excuse me while I vomit...
  • Derek Stout

    You mean... nobody followed the rules of war? They colored outside the lines and killed the wrong people?

    Not all American soldiers are there to protect and serve. Not all Muslims want to cut off your head. 
  • Francisco Boni Neto

    Why do I feel, as a Italian citizen, compelled to commit terrorist attacks against american targets after reading this and watching those photos? This makes my blood boil. Savage psychopaths with "McD's" and iPads. No excuse.
  • Gail Cerridwen

    We don't "have to recruit these types of people." We choose to. As well as "choosing" these reprehensible, inexcusable wars. This is our government after all. Even though I've always voted against wars, I feel great shame cuz I know that as a US citizen, I share in this responsibility. I don't even have words for how this all makes me feel cuz I've always striven to fight AGAINST these people. These people that are us...
  • M.j. Reynolds

    We should not be in Afghanistan. This story is horrifying, and all the soldiers involved will pay the price forever for what they did. They might think they're okay with what they did, but it's going to haunt them for the rest of their lives. It's always this way - finally a few of the lower level soldiers are punished but the ones higher up get away with it and get promoted and the Army as a whole just gets more and more corrupted. Who can you trust who has served in the Army recently? When you read these stories, it makes you fearful about trusting anyone who has served in Iraq or Afghanistan, because maybe they are murderers who have no moral compass.
  • Alex Bayne

    Disgusting. Truly evil. Billions of dollars a year to finance this army of murderers overseas, people. We ought to be ashamed for every day we allow these wars to continue.
  • Fredick Martinez

    as a veteran I am ashamed of my brothers in arms doing this inhumane acts. On my two trips i saw a lot of stuff but i never witnessed my brothers doings acts like such. No wonder they hate us even more now we are killing the innocent. I just pray this could be over soon.
  • Michael Rosenberg

    Your tax dollars at work. I'm so glad we're cutting funding for sick children to help pay for this tragic idiocy in Afghanistan.
  • Rudy Haugeneder

    Didn't find this story unusual. Recently watched a television documentary about a unit stuck in a front line Afghanistan fort and who went out on regular patrols during which innocent civilians were sometimes killed or wounded, and their families then paid off with a small fistful of money. No soldiers showed the least remorse or concern -- sort of like guys in a hunting trip. However, whenever on of their guys got wounded, they acted like they were all innocent babes in diapers who were mercilessly ambushed in a playground by pedophiles. Of course this doesn't apply to most soldiers in America's war zones, but it does reflect the attitude of too many of them.

  • Felix Rodriguez

    Unbelievable...... It's sad that we have to recruit these type of people.... And they call themselves American soldiers? They are a disgrace to all of America and humanity.....
  • Kerry Butcher

    absolutely revolting. my blood is boiling.
  • Joel Kent Melville

    well so much for wanting to join the army :( I think I'll pass. but then again a few bad apples dont represent the tree now do they? I still want to become a soldier, and serve with HONOR something these men clearly lacked.
  • Christopher Larkins

    Sickening and truly disturbing.
  • Jae Barclay

    Mr. Obama, I voted for you with pride and hope. This war has to end now. As an American I condone these acts of shame and disgust. 

    End the war in Afghanistan now.
  • Chuck Cirino

    Expose them all. Make them feel the shame for the rest of their lives.
  • Blake Sundstrom

    Support our troops? No thanks.
  • Mike Yarbrough

    I really hope someone can see this before reading this story or looking at these photos and videos. DO NOT look unless you are 100% sure it is something you can handle seeing. These are by no means tame photos. Not to compare the deaths of human beings to a movie, but to give you some imagery, the photos make 'Saving Private Ryan' look tame. DO NOT look unless you are without doubt. You cannot un-see or forget those images.
  • Nelson Eguizabal

    Great article. I hope everyone involved in this get what they deserve. Incidents like this is what's making the job harder for the rest of us. I can't believe an Squad Leader and a Team Leader plotted to kill innocent civilians. Pathetic.
  • Aaron Stephens

    This is disgusting can't believe this is were our tax dollars are going.
  • Allison Tans

    Absolutely disgusted after reading this. What is going on in this world?
  • Sammi Law

    Your tax dollars at work! Quick get some teachers to finance a cover up.
  • Manthan Bhatt

    These soldiers should spend a lifetime in an AFGHANI prison.
  • Adrian Zupp

    War brings out the sickness in people. I'm sure there are many more atrocities that we never hear of. But our leaders must bear a great burden of the responsibility for putting young people into these extreme situations after teaching them all about killing and destruction. You are bound to get deranged outcomes.

    This relates to my latest blog post: WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER.
    adrianzupp.blogspot.com/2011/03/war-is-not-answer.html
  • Amy Robinson Buddie

    I think I'm going to throw up. 
  • Larry McCombs

    America. What a country.
  • Andy Clifford

    This brings the expression, "ugly amerikan" to a whole other level!
  • Angela Lo Rosso

    And they have the guts to pose with Children I feel sick this is OUTRAGEOUS.
  • Lisa Kasper

    I've never been more ashamed to be an american. (small "a" intentional)
  • Sajid Anwar

    don't think I've ever been as angry as I am now reading this story.
  • Robert James Hogge

    peaceout1

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