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National Emergency Alert System Set To Launch In NYC
May 10, 2011 1:55 PM
Mayor Michael Bloomberg announces new emergency alert system set to launch in NYC, May 10, 2011 (credit: Marla Diamond/WCBS 880)
NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) – A new national alert system is set to begin in New York City that will alert the public to emergencies via cell phones.
Reporting It’s called the Personal Localized Alert Network or PLAN. Presidential and local emergency messages as well as Amber Alerts would appear on cell phones equipped with special chips and software.
The Federal Communications Commission and the Federal Emergency Management Agency said the system would also warn about terrorist attacks and natural disasters.
1010 WINS’ Stan Brooks reports: An Arsenal Of Readiness
“The lessons that were reinforced on 9/11 is the importance of getting clear and accurate information to the public during a crisis,” New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg said at a news conference on Tuesday.
Verizon and AT&T, the nation’s largest cell phone carriers, are already on board. Consumers would be able to opt out of all but those presidential messages.
WCBS 880′s Marla Diamond With Comment From Mayor Bloomberg
“We believe this new alert system is a welcome addition to our arsenal of readiness,” Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said. “It’s like a police officer’s gun: it’s there for a good reason but we hope that we never have to pull the trigger.”
The announcement of the new emergency alert system came in the wake of Osama bin Laden’s death and an uptick in security and safety concerns around New York City.
WCBS 880′s Paul Murnane In Lower Manhattan: Verizon And AT&T Are On Board
For now, the alerts are capable on certain high-end cell phones but starting next year, all cell phones will be required to have the chip that receives alerts.
By the end of the year, the new system will be in place in New York City and Washington and in cities around the country by the end of 2012.
Bloomberg made the announcement about the new system Tuesday morning with FCC chairman Julius Genashowski and other federal and local officials.
This new emergency alert system is part of the Warning Alert and Response Network Act that was approved by Congress in 2006.
New York City already has an emergency alert in place called Notify NYC. Bloomberg says it’s the largest opt-in notification alert system in the country.
746 Comments
JERSEYGIRL2011
My cell phone COULDN’T EVEN RECEIVE A SIGNAL ON 9/11, what makes anyone think I could receive one in another catastrophe? I will fight this, I don’t want a chip in my phone for ANY reason, ESPECIALLY for reasons that the GOVERNMENT WANTS ME TO HAVE ONE!!!!!!!!!!!
My cell phone COULDN’T EVEN RECEIVE A SIGNAL ON 9/11, what makes anyone think I could receive one in another catastrophe? I will fight this, I don’t want a chip in my phone for ANY reason, ESPECIALLY for reasons that the GOVERNMENT WANTS ME TO HAVE ONE!!!!!!!!!!!
May 10, 2011 at 4:35 pm | |
d
do you even know what all the chips in your phone do now? if not then I would go ahead and assume it’s already in there, or a version of it at minimum.
do you even know what all the chips in your phone do now? if not then I would go ahead and assume it’s already in there, or a version of it at minimum.
May 10, 2011 at 5:17 pm
otbros
Just what we need. Words of advice from “Dear Leader.”
SIEG F’ing HEIL!
Just what we need. Words of advice from “Dear Leader.”
SIEG F’ing HEIL!
May 10, 2011 at 4:45 pm | |
Hooridian
You must be able to receive notices from the President so he can get free campaign time.
You must be able to receive notices from the President so he can get free campaign time.
May 10, 2011 at 4:49 pm | |
Sean
The mark of the beast. . . for your phone. I’m sure it won’t track you even when your phone is off.
The mark of the beast. . . for your phone. I’m sure it won’t track you even when your phone is off.
May 10, 2011 at 8:48 am | |
Chikara
The prophecy is beginning to unfold….
The prophecy is beginning to unfold….
May 10, 2011 at 12:15 pm | |
Christopher Welch
I can’t believe this is all happening right in front of our faces and still most do nothing. The only thing We need to do is inform everyone and just say no. But if this is really Prophecy well then thier nothing we can do God Bless!
I can’t believe this is all happening right in front of our faces and still most do nothing. The only thing We need to do is inform everyone and just say no. But if this is really Prophecy well then thier nothing we can do God Bless!
May 10, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Clint
Yes, because the Bible foretells that a beast with gnashing teeth and 3G coverage will emerge, and people will take its mark. You Bible Thumpers are always inventing something to be terrified of. This is a common sense system that will save lives, and to not support it on the basis of some religious or conspiracy theory is asinine and a prime example of why this country is going down the tubes. You may also opt-out of most of them. Plus, according to some of the thumpers around here the world is going to end May 21, 2011 so you shouldn’t even really be worrying about this to begin with.
Yes, because the Bible foretells that a beast with gnashing teeth and 3G coverage will emerge, and people will take its mark. You Bible Thumpers are always inventing something to be terrified of. This is a common sense system that will save lives, and to not support it on the basis of some religious or conspiracy theory is asinine and a prime example of why this country is going down the tubes. You may also opt-out of most of them. Plus, according to some of the thumpers around here the world is going to end May 21, 2011 so you shouldn’t even really be worrying about this to begin with.
May 10, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Mike Henry
I have a prophecy: What about people who cannot afford cell phones? How long will it be before the feds are paying for cell phones and cell phone service for “low income” people. Why not? We paid for TV antennas.
I have a prophecy: What about people who cannot afford cell phones? How long will it be before the feds are paying for cell phones and cell phone service for “low income” people. Why not? We paid for TV antennas.
May 10, 2011 at 1:24 pm
D
Oh my (not your) God! You’re a lunatic! Absolutely raving mad! These posts should be enough to commit you in any court of law. You realize this is nothing more than an emergency broadcast on TV, right? OR ARE THEY TRACKING OUT TV’S, TOO????? Wow.
Oh my (not your) God! You’re a lunatic! Absolutely raving mad! These posts should be enough to commit you in any court of law. You realize this is nothing more than an emergency broadcast on TV, right? OR ARE THEY TRACKING OUT TV’S, TOO????? Wow.
May 10, 2011 at 1:36 pm
jman
@mike
they already do provide cell phones for free
@mike
they already do provide cell phones for free
May 10, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Dan Stiles
There is no need to have any new software or chips on a phone to receive texts. They are attempting to do something else under the cover of “emergency messages”. I guarantee that this special chip and software has some form of location tracking and spyware on it. Perhaps it is special software that instantly analyzes voice patterns, digitizes the voice characteristics into a packet which is sent to a central server to see if it should be taped. Imagine, worry-free wiretapping! If the voice is that of a wanted criminal or just someone on the wrong side of politics, it could then be directed to start broadcasting location. Big brother is here and he will even let you play games on his electronic handcuffs.
There is no need to have any new software or chips on a phone to receive texts. They are attempting to do something else under the cover of “emergency messages”. I guarantee that this special chip and software has some form of location tracking and spyware on it. Perhaps it is special software that instantly analyzes voice patterns, digitizes the voice characteristics into a packet which is sent to a central server to see if it should be taped. Imagine, worry-free wiretapping! If the voice is that of a wanted criminal or just someone on the wrong side of politics, it could then be directed to start broadcasting location. Big brother is here and he will even let you play games on his electronic handcuffs.
May 10, 2011 at 1:44 pm
RisenFromTheDead
Ha, this is just more sheeple training.
Soon, they’ll be telling you what to do, and when to do it.
Did anybody else see 1984?
Line up, slaves, and do what we say.
Stop funding these idiots who want to be your slave masters.
Google excluded income, and smell the coffee.
Ha, this is just more sheeple training.
Soon, they’ll be telling you what to do, and when to do it.
Did anybody else see 1984?
Line up, slaves, and do what we say.
Stop funding these idiots who want to be your slave masters.
Google excluded income, and smell the coffee.
May 10, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Jack
This is to Clint. Some of us do not understand the difference between faith and belief. If the bible were to give exacting details as to how things would unfold then there would be no room for faith as knowledge equals belief and faith requires none. But that’s the point. How many of us could actually put on a blindfold and step off of an apparent cliff on God’s word alone?
The bible should never be so easily discounted because there are many lessons that would benefit most people if they would just give it a chance. I do not believe the bible was written to give perfect predictions. Revelations could be looked at as a broad prediction. No, there will be no specifics as that is not important (please refer to my first statements regarding faith). There are many paths in which the degradation of our society and the eventuality of evil taking power can occur and will occur without checks and balances. It’s one of the reasons the Constitution was written the way it was. Basically, if a power or responsibility that would be intended for the government is not mentioned within the Constitution then the government does not have that power. Our founding fathers understood the potential slippery slope that unbridled power would lead too no matter the intentions of the person or organization wielding those powers. It is also one of the reasons that power must always be decentralized.
I believe the prime example of why our country is going down the tubes is because of the majority of our representatives. Who in their right mind would ever think that it was ok to not only have a 14.3 trillion dollar deficit but increase the limit on that deficit? For a long time now those in D.C. have repeatedly kick the can down the road for someone else to fix and now we are at a point where we can no longer do that and have the country survive. The idea of having a mandatory requirement to receive alert broadcasts to our personal cellphones from our federal government with no way to option out goes against our freedoms. It’s not their cellphones nor is it their networks. Even if the funds to build or create these phones and networks came from the federal government the true owners are the American people. The country and the government are in fact two separate things. I look at the government as nothing more than a service industry hired by the American people and legally enforced by a contract we call the constitution and nothing more. How would you feel one day if the company that mows your yard informed you that they were going to start cleaning your gutters (something you may already do yourself) whether you like it or not and charge you anything they want too?
There are two main reasons 9/11 happened. One, the terrorist attacked and the second is those that we hired and entrusted to protect us failed and failed miserably. We believe that increased funding and more overbearing security measures that violate our contract with the service company (federal government) are going to make us safer. How can those that failed to protect us from men with box cutters, abysmal flight training and blind luck ever do it with billions of dollars in additional funding and more oppression of our freedoms? Never mind the fact that we were spending hundreds of billions of dollars a year to already protect us.
This is to Clint. Some of us do not understand the difference between faith and belief. If the bible were to give exacting details as to how things would unfold then there would be no room for faith as knowledge equals belief and faith requires none. But that’s the point. How many of us could actually put on a blindfold and step off of an apparent cliff on God’s word alone?
The bible should never be so easily discounted because there are many lessons that would benefit most people if they would just give it a chance. I do not believe the bible was written to give perfect predictions. Revelations could be looked at as a broad prediction. No, there will be no specifics as that is not important (please refer to my first statements regarding faith). There are many paths in which the degradation of our society and the eventuality of evil taking power can occur and will occur without checks and balances. It’s one of the reasons the Constitution was written the way it was. Basically, if a power or responsibility that would be intended for the government is not mentioned within the Constitution then the government does not have that power. Our founding fathers understood the potential slippery slope that unbridled power would lead too no matter the intentions of the person or organization wielding those powers. It is also one of the reasons that power must always be decentralized.
I believe the prime example of why our country is going down the tubes is because of the majority of our representatives. Who in their right mind would ever think that it was ok to not only have a 14.3 trillion dollar deficit but increase the limit on that deficit? For a long time now those in D.C. have repeatedly kick the can down the road for someone else to fix and now we are at a point where we can no longer do that and have the country survive. The idea of having a mandatory requirement to receive alert broadcasts to our personal cellphones from our federal government with no way to option out goes against our freedoms. It’s not their cellphones nor is it their networks. Even if the funds to build or create these phones and networks came from the federal government the true owners are the American people. The country and the government are in fact two separate things. I look at the government as nothing more than a service industry hired by the American people and legally enforced by a contract we call the constitution and nothing more. How would you feel one day if the company that mows your yard informed you that they were going to start cleaning your gutters (something you may already do yourself) whether you like it or not and charge you anything they want too?
There are two main reasons 9/11 happened. One, the terrorist attacked and the second is those that we hired and entrusted to protect us failed and failed miserably. We believe that increased funding and more overbearing security measures that violate our contract with the service company (federal government) are going to make us safer. How can those that failed to protect us from men with box cutters, abysmal flight training and blind luck ever do it with billions of dollars in additional funding and more oppression of our freedoms? Never mind the fact that we were spending hundreds of billions of dollars a year to already protect us.
May 10, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Thomas J.
Being forced to do anything is wrong, regardless of the institution. This was first seen with health care, TSA sticking their hands down little girls’ pants, now they want to tell me I can’t get out of getting a text from someone I have no longer any hope for? This has got to stop.
Being forced to do anything is wrong, regardless of the institution. This was first seen with health care, TSA sticking their hands down little girls’ pants, now they want to tell me I can’t get out of getting a text from someone I have no longer any hope for? This has got to stop.
May 10, 2011 at 1:47 pm
The Mayor
I can’t believe you such a idiot….
I can’t believe you such a idiot….
May 10, 2011 at 2:15 pm
RLC
Where is my real government? You know the one that guarantees freedom? When did they become so powerful that they can require me to hear certain messages from them. This may be a good system for those that wnat it, but I do not like the intrusion into my life.
Where is my real government? You know the one that guarantees freedom? When did they become so powerful that they can require me to hear certain messages from them. This may be a good system for those that wnat it, but I do not like the intrusion into my life.
May 10, 2011 at 12:17 pm | |
Clint
Your real government? Pre-Obama you mean? As in 2006, when this program was initiated?
Also, as a service I’ll break this down for you. “Opt” is short for “option” and “Out” means you are not “in” something. So when those are put together we get “opt-out” which is where you can exercise the OPTION to stay OUT of the program. That is exactly what you can do here, except admittedly for the presidential alerts, which contrary to the rantings of people on this article will not be campaign related (that would, in fact, be illegal). It’s almost like you people would like to assert being uninformed and ignorant as a constitutional right. OH NO! The mean government is trying to disseminate vital information to the public in a quick and effective manner!
As a final note, when you see alot of people running one way screaming and holding their cell phones, make sure you keep heading the other way so you can avoid the intrusion of knowing that there is a catastrophe unfolding ahead of you. To do anything else would just be un-American.
Your real government? Pre-Obama you mean? As in 2006, when this program was initiated?
Also, as a service I’ll break this down for you. “Opt” is short for “option” and “Out” means you are not “in” something. So when those are put together we get “opt-out” which is where you can exercise the OPTION to stay OUT of the program. That is exactly what you can do here, except admittedly for the presidential alerts, which contrary to the rantings of people on this article will not be campaign related (that would, in fact, be illegal). It’s almost like you people would like to assert being uninformed and ignorant as a constitutional right. OH NO! The mean government is trying to disseminate vital information to the public in a quick and effective manner!
As a final note, when you see alot of people running one way screaming and holding their cell phones, make sure you keep heading the other way so you can avoid the intrusion of knowing that there is a catastrophe unfolding ahead of you. To do anything else would just be un-American.
May 10, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Evil Notifier
Yes, and those tornado alarms! Horrible! How dare the government require me to hear those sirens as the tornadoes form and head for my neighborhood! It should be my “right” to be surprised and die by God’s powerful finger!
Yes, and those tornado alarms! Horrible! How dare the government require me to hear those sirens as the tornadoes form and head for my neighborhood! It should be my “right” to be surprised and die by God’s powerful finger!
May 10, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Ray Magashazy
Clint,
You can’t opt out of the presidential message. Looks like I’ll be replacing some chips.
Clint,
You can’t opt out of the presidential message. Looks like I’ll be replacing some chips.
May 10, 2011 at 1:13 pm
plainolamerican
The government does not guarbtee freedom, that is our job.
FIGHT back.
The government does not guarbtee freedom, that is our job.
FIGHT back.
May 10, 2011 at 2:32 pm
bob, slc ut
Of course this is all about making money, it isn’t about safety or notification or even propaganda, just simply another way to push a product that isn’t needed on society. If nobody will buy your product then you need government to help you force them to take it – just like healthcare mandates – force the people to buy the product!
Of course this is all about making money, it isn’t about safety or notification or even propaganda, just simply another way to push a product that isn’t needed on society. If nobody will buy your product then you need government to help you force them to take it – just like healthcare mandates – force the people to buy the product!
May 10, 2011 at 12:19 pm | |
Regulas
Agree, Call me old fashioned, I use a home phone, the cell phone does not have my interest, especially the price per month and the government can take any free phone and shove it up in a stinky dark place.
Leave me a message on my answering machine and I will get back to you, works just fine.
Agree, Call me old fashioned, I use a home phone, the cell phone does not have my interest, especially the price per month and the government can take any free phone and shove it up in a stinky dark place.
Leave me a message on my answering machine and I will get back to you, works just fine.
May 10, 2011 at 12:53 pm | |
tired_of_tech
I spent 37 years of my life without a cell phone. I think i will opt out of their use. I’m tired of everyone being able to reach me anyway. Do you remember work vacations without worrying about phone calls from the boss? I don’t know how we did it but we survived. There are far too many distractions for human beings today.
I spent 37 years of my life without a cell phone. I think i will opt out of their use. I’m tired of everyone being able to reach me anyway. Do you remember work vacations without worrying about phone calls from the boss? I don’t know how we did it but we survived. There are far too many distractions for human beings today.
May 10, 2011 at 1:10 pm | |
Dee
I agree. I see people who are out and about trying to do their thing with their cell phones ringing every 2 minutes. It makes me think, “Wow, I feel great about not having a cell phone.” I can go out and not be stressed by having to multi task and deal with everyone 24 hours a day. If I’m out having a good time I can relax knowing that if someone needs to reach me, they can call me when I get home. I’ll deal with it then, for now I don’t need to bother. The good old days aren’t that bad. I try to live like that as much as possible.
I agree. I see people who are out and about trying to do their thing with their cell phones ringing every 2 minutes. It makes me think, “Wow, I feel great about not having a cell phone.” I can go out and not be stressed by having to multi task and deal with everyone 24 hours a day. If I’m out having a good time I can relax knowing that if someone needs to reach me, they can call me when I get home. I’ll deal with it then, for now I don’t need to bother. The good old days aren’t that bad. I try to live like that as much as possible.
May 10, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Gerry
Just learn to pull the battery out of that sucker whenever you need privacy like Osama’s runners used to do. Those old phones without the intrusive chip will be in big demand for years to come because most people will not want the extra junk mail and texts from POTUS and the Nanny State of New York. In tornado country they used to have weather alert sirens that were so loud they scared the heck out of you when they went off.
Just learn to pull the battery out of that sucker whenever you need privacy like Osama’s runners used to do. Those old phones without the intrusive chip will be in big demand for years to come because most people will not want the extra junk mail and texts from POTUS and the Nanny State of New York. In tornado country they used to have weather alert sirens that were so loud they scared the heck out of you when they went off.
May 10, 2011 at 1:22 pm | |
sueWilson
@Mike Henry. There are already free phones for the low income. Why the hell my tax dollar is being used for this I would like to know. Why don’t we just buy them a yacht while we’re at it!
@Mike Henry. There are already free phones for the low income. Why the hell my tax dollar is being used for this I would like to know. Why don’t we just buy them a yacht while we’re at it!
May 10, 2011 at 1:41 pm | |
Jack
The poor are considered a voting block so politicians try to keep them happy. They are buying a vote with your tax dollars or better yet tax debt.
The poor are considered a voting block so politicians try to keep them happy. They are buying a vote with your tax dollars or better yet tax debt.
May 10, 2011 at 1:52 pm
NCMarc
Why does the phone need a “special” chip? My phone already gets text messages just fine. What else does this “chip” supposedly do?
Why does the phone need a “special” chip? My phone already gets text messages just fine. What else does this “chip” supposedly do?
May 10, 2011 at 1:50 pm | |
Gonzo
Yeah, and the phone company can already send texts out in mass right now, why do we need special chips or software if current technology is already doing it?
Yeah, and the phone company can already send texts out in mass right now, why do we need special chips or software if current technology is already doing it?
May 10, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Andrew Merts
The reason for the special chip is because these text messages will be electronically signed. It could be done with existing SMS equipment but then there isn’t that extra security in place to prevent someone from forging an emergency message from the president. The idea behind the chip is that only local government, state government, and the president can use these emergency messages.
The reason for the special chip is because these text messages will be electronically signed. It could be done with existing SMS equipment but then there isn’t that extra security in place to prevent someone from forging an emergency message from the president. The idea behind the chip is that only local government, state government, and the president can use these emergency messages.
May 10, 2011 at 5:22 pm
The Mayor
and the boogie man lives in your closet
and the boogie man lives in your closet
May 10, 2011 at 2:16 pm | |
Al
Only if you take the battery out.
Only if you take the battery out.
May 10, 2011 at 2:18 pm | |
Don
Sean, dont be so sure. To avoid detection you probably will have to remove the battery from the device. As Muhammad Ali once said: “You can run, but you can’t hide” ( indefinitely ) lol
Sean, dont be so sure. To avoid detection you probably will have to remove the battery from the device. As Muhammad Ali once said: “You can run, but you can’t hide” ( indefinitely ) lol
May 10, 2011 at 2:22 pm | |
ByteRider
This system was designed to give Obama the ability not to WARN but to RALLY people to his cause. This goes exactly with what he said during his campaign, and I quote:
“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
Barack Obama, July 2, 2008, Colorado Springs, CO.
Welcome to the end. Are you on the side of rightousness or sodomy? Better make up your minds soon.
This system was designed to give Obama the ability not to WARN but to RALLY people to his cause. This goes exactly with what he said during his campaign, and I quote:
“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
Barack Obama, July 2, 2008, Colorado Springs, CO.
Welcome to the end. Are you on the side of rightousness or sodomy? Better make up your minds soon.
May 10, 2011 at 4:01 pm | |
Mutzter
I’ll be glad to receive these alerts. Oh, my phone bill is for 4 phones and costs $100 a month. Adding text messages will be another $40 a month. When the government I don’t have Smart phones, that could be another $600-$800 dollard up front. When the government sends me the money to cover the cost of upgrading my phone plan and regular monthly payments for mandating cell phone service for my family, I’ll gladly comply.
I’ll be glad to receive these alerts. Oh, my phone bill is for 4 phones and costs $100 a month. Adding text messages will be another $40 a month. When the government I don’t have Smart phones, that could be another $600-$800 dollard up front. When the government sends me the money to cover the cost of upgrading my phone plan and regular monthly payments for mandating cell phone service for my family, I’ll gladly comply.
May 10, 2011 at 8:47 am | |
RON PAUL
They got to get their fear propaganda to you some how. Guess the television “programing” is not getting to enough people.
If only people had critical thinking skills. guess the CHEMTRAILS AND FLUORIDE are working…
QUESTION AUTHORITY
They got to get their fear propaganda to you some how. Guess the television “programing” is not getting to enough people.
If only people had critical thinking skills. guess the CHEMTRAILS AND FLUORIDE are working…
QUESTION AUTHORITY
May 10, 2011 at 11:04 am | |
Gary W Geiser
Amen.
Amen.
May 10, 2011 at 11:21 am
Wendy Weinbaum
As a Jewess in the US, I predict that soon, the Fed.gov will be sending out insipid messages reminding you to VOTE on election day! Probably for DEMOCRATS only, however.
As a Jewess in the US, I predict that soon, the Fed.gov will be sending out insipid messages reminding you to VOTE on election day! Probably for DEMOCRATS only, however.
May 10, 2011 at 11:35 am
trthrising
PUBLIC ALERT!!!, Reading the comments of this and countless other articles people are not as clueless as they once were, we are awaking from a slumber of ignorance. But please be forewarned I believe they are gearing up for a false flag to force us back into their mind control and further Dominance!! we have to stand strong now more than ever and spread truth,,, The Truth is Rising….
If you don’t believe are Government of being capable, Wiki-Operation Northwoods, Gulf of tonkin… RONPAUL2012!!!
PUBLIC ALERT!!!, Reading the comments of this and countless other articles people are not as clueless as they once were, we are awaking from a slumber of ignorance. But please be forewarned I believe they are gearing up for a false flag to force us back into their mind control and further Dominance!! we have to stand strong now more than ever and spread truth,,, The Truth is Rising….
If you don’t believe are Government of being capable, Wiki-Operation Northwoods, Gulf of tonkin… RONPAUL2012!!!
May 10, 2011 at 11:55 am
D
These are the people who comment off articles linked on Drudge. God help this country.
These are the people who comment off articles linked on Drudge. God help this country.
May 10, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Jack
Hay Trthrising, You get a gold star on the false flag mention. Notice how the MSM seem to be creating a rather large back story on Pakistan and their connections to Al-Queda? There’s even been a few remarks about the potential of Pakistan’s nukes and not all being accounted for. When the file on them gets big enough and believable enough “stop, drop and cover” will be the new dance move. I believe the powers that be are getting ready to pull the trigger of the nuke card and put most Americans back into the blind patriotism mode. Keep the tank full and the B.O.B. preped to go.
Hay Trthrising, You get a gold star on the false flag mention. Notice how the MSM seem to be creating a rather large back story on Pakistan and their connections to Al-Queda? There’s even been a few remarks about the potential of Pakistan’s nukes and not all being accounted for. When the file on them gets big enough and believable enough “stop, drop and cover” will be the new dance move. I believe the powers that be are getting ready to pull the trigger of the nuke card and put most Americans back into the blind patriotism mode. Keep the tank full and the B.O.B. preped to go.
May 10, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Andrew Merts
Please don’t post under Ron Paul’s name, he is a much better person than you lead people to believe.
Please don’t post under Ron Paul’s name, he is a much better person than you lead people to believe.
May 10, 2011 at 5:29 pm
O2BNTEXAS
“Say No To The “O” In 2012″
“Say No To The “O” In 2012″
May 10, 2011 at 11:20 am | |
TERRI TERESE
i say no to O in 2012….the socialist unconstituional illegal tryng to be president but has failed by Gods plan to end his PREZ. A natural born Kenyan national tries to collapse the system and USA constituion. GOD IS WITH US ALWAYS NOT OBAMA
i say no to O in 2012….the socialist unconstituional illegal tryng to be president but has failed by Gods plan to end his PREZ. A natural born Kenyan national tries to collapse the system and USA constituion. GOD IS WITH US ALWAYS NOT OBAMA
May 10, 2011 at 11:36 am
O2BNTEXAS
Mutzter is on to something here…when they implement this program they will also subsidize the phone so you can receive the messages. Another trillion dollar boondoggle!
Mutzter is on to something here…when they implement this program they will also subsidize the phone so you can receive the messages. Another trillion dollar boondoggle!
May 10, 2011 at 11:24 am | |
Sean
You can already get a free cell phone from your Federal Gov’t with 250 minutes a month…
You can already get a free cell phone from your Federal Gov’t with 250 minutes a month…
May 10, 2011 at 3:57 pm
oregon
i am concerned that so many folk make light of the antichrist and the bible’s prophecy of tracking. The g’ment tracks fones, tracks recipients, and e’thing. this is not a good thing folk
i am concerned that so many folk make light of the antichrist and the bible’s prophecy of tracking. The g’ment tracks fones, tracks recipients, and e’thing. this is not a good thing folk
May 10, 2011 at 11:30 am | |
D
You are a caveman with an internet connection.
You are a caveman with an internet connection.
May 10, 2011 at 1:42 pm
CC
to: umustbkidding
I’d honestly start with your cell phone service provider. If enough people threaten to change carriers, they’ll pay attention. I currently have Verizon, but I’d drop it in a heartbeat if this came to pass. The pay-as-you go plans are convenient, cheap, and you pay cash up front so they can’t track based on SSN.
to: umustbkidding
I’d honestly start with your cell phone service provider. If enough people threaten to change carriers, they’ll pay attention. I currently have Verizon, but I’d drop it in a heartbeat if this came to pass. The pay-as-you go plans are convenient, cheap, and you pay cash up front so they can’t track based on SSN.
May 10, 2011 at 11:36 am | |
Scott Muller
So all existing phones could simply receive a mass text message gov-spam and you could call the system a success BUT…… “starting next year, all cell phones will be required to have the chip that receives alerts.”????? Why is some special gov-chip required to be in my phone? For the stated purpose of being able to receive “special government text messages” that apparently are incompatible with ordinary text messages and require a special chip? Big brother, intrusive, oppressive government is what it sounds like to me.
So all existing phones could simply receive a mass text message gov-spam and you could call the system a success BUT…… “starting next year, all cell phones will be required to have the chip that receives alerts.”????? Why is some special gov-chip required to be in my phone? For the stated purpose of being able to receive “special government text messages” that apparently are incompatible with ordinary text messages and require a special chip? Big brother, intrusive, oppressive government is what it sounds like to me.
May 10, 2011 at 11:37 am | |
Liberty4Am
Sounds right to me, just an even better tracking device than it is now.
Sounds right to me, just an even better tracking device than it is now.
May 10, 2011 at 1:11 pm
ontheclock
But you cannot be required to purchase a service that you don’t choose (commerce clause…Obamacare!). Yeah…this is next!
But you cannot be required to purchase a service that you don’t choose (commerce clause…Obamacare!). Yeah…this is next!
May 10, 2011 at 12:02 pm | |
BlancoBuster
Ahh but they can take your tax money, purchase the service and “give” it to you! If they actually did that with Obamacare, it would have been legal, totally socialist, but legal. Its only illegal for them to force you to buy directly from a private business, but they can do it for you
Ahh but they can take your tax money, purchase the service and “give” it to you! If they actually did that with Obamacare, it would have been legal, totally socialist, but legal. Its only illegal for them to force you to buy directly from a private business, but they can do it for you
May 10, 2011 at 3:19 pm
chic
umustbkidding
So are we going to do anything about it or are we just complainers?
If there is anyone out there that has a clue what the step is to stop this then please speak up. Let us know.
I heartily recommend, torches and pitchforks, surrounding EVERY gov’t building in the states, including DC.
umustbkidding
So are we going to do anything about it or are we just complainers?
If there is anyone out there that has a clue what the step is to stop this then please speak up. Let us know.
I heartily recommend, torches and pitchforks, surrounding EVERY gov’t building in the states, including DC.
May 10, 2011 at 12:17 pm | |
Clint
Cool your jets. I bet this won’t cost you a cent on your phone bill. The article mentions nothing about compulsory upgrades or anything of the sort. Maybe wait to get the facts before working yourself into a frenzy?
Cool your jets. I bet this won’t cost you a cent on your phone bill. The article mentions nothing about compulsory upgrades or anything of the sort. Maybe wait to get the facts before working yourself into a frenzy?
May 10, 2011 at 12:57 pm | |
Tom
Since when does the government ever implement anything that “won’t cost you a cent”? Wake up. Things have to be paid for. New things have to be paid for with money not already being spent on other things. The government gets its money from us, so just how would this NOT cost us anything?
Since when does the government ever implement anything that “won’t cost you a cent”? Wake up. Things have to be paid for. New things have to be paid for with money not already being spent on other things. The government gets its money from us, so just how would this NOT cost us anything?
May 10, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Stephen
They
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May 10, 2011 at 1:24 pm | |
Mutzter
After having my morning coffee so I could keep my thoughts together (Hence the confused email earlier), I called the offices of my congressman and two senators and told them that this should not go forward. If it does go forward and becomes a nation-wide, mandatory system, I want the government to fund it. I then want them to submit a bill that everyone MUST have a house and a car and it should be paid for by the government. I need gas to run it also, so I’ll need my gas coupons too. Oh, food is more essential than this alert system, so I expect the government to provide me and my family with food each week. Please don’t leave out my cable or satellite systems either because these are essential for following what is going on in real time. If the government is going to start mandating all this stuff, then they need to pay for it. If we’re going to be socialists, then let’s go all out!! Is this considered constitutional under the General Welfare clause? Just wondering. I thought I just heard the founders rolling over in their graves!!
After having my morning coffee so I could keep my thoughts together (Hence the confused email earlier), I called the offices of my congressman and two senators and told them that this should not go forward. If it does go forward and becomes a nation-wide, mandatory system, I want the government to fund it. I then want them to submit a bill that everyone MUST have a house and a car and it should be paid for by the government. I need gas to run it also, so I’ll need my gas coupons too. Oh, food is more essential than this alert system, so I expect the government to provide me and my family with food each week. Please don’t leave out my cable or satellite systems either because these are essential for following what is going on in real time. If the government is going to start mandating all this stuff, then they need to pay for it. If we’re going to be socialists, then let’s go all out!! Is this considered constitutional under the General Welfare clause? Just wondering. I thought I just heard the founders rolling over in their graves!!
May 10, 2011 at 2:19 pm | |
J. Goebbells
You vill comply. You vill be a good citizen. You vill obey Comrade Obama.
You vill comply. You vill be a good citizen. You vill obey Comrade Obama.
May 10, 2011 at 2:28 pm | |
Andrew Merts
These “texts” won’t cost you a cent if you don’t have texting on your phone and people without a texting plan are another reason why there has to be a hardware chip in new phones.
These “texts” won’t cost you a cent if you don’t have texting on your phone and people without a texting plan are another reason why there has to be a hardware chip in new phones.
May 10, 2011 at 5:25 pm | |
Djoser
Bunch of nannyism BS! This country is turning into a bunch of sissies. The sad part though. . . Many want this big brother garbage.
Bunch of nannyism BS! This country is turning into a bunch of sissies. The sad part though. . . Many want this big brother garbage.
May 10, 2011 at 8:45 am | |
LoonsToTheLeftOfMe
No, thank you. I’d prefer to opt out of ALL messages from the Dear Leader.
No, thank you. I’d prefer to opt out of ALL messages from the Dear Leader.
May 10, 2011 at 8:44 am | |
TheRukh
Absolutely!!
Absolutely!!
May 10, 2011 at 10:20 am | |
lathonbaud
Unfortunately you won’t be able to opt out of the presidential messages. “Vote for me, Barry!”
Unfortunately you won’t be able to opt out of the presidential messages. “Vote for me, Barry!”
May 10, 2011 at 10:32 am
Fanny Forbes Franklen
Deleting this message is punishable by one year in prison. Have a great day!
Your morning message from Big Sis so you’ll have a safe day.
Time to turn off your phone. http://911essentials.com
Deleting this message is punishable by one year in prison. Have a great day!
Your morning message from Big Sis so you’ll have a safe day.
Time to turn off your phone. http://911essentials.com
May 10, 2011 at 10:55 am | |
ML
AMEN to this! Ditch the cell phones and go back to land lines that don’t provide texting. It is the end of our liberty if we allow this ridiculous measure!
AMEN to this! Ditch the cell phones and go back to land lines that don’t provide texting. It is the end of our liberty if we allow this ridiculous measure!
May 10, 2011 at 11:40 am
Andrew Merts
Then get something like an android based phone where you can root the phone and ignore all of the messages to your hearts content.
Then get something like an android based phone where you can root the phone and ignore all of the messages to your hearts content.
May 10, 2011 at 5:27 pm | |
cf123
Ron Paul is looking better and better all the time. Remember that a pendulim always swings back the other way.
Ron Paul is looking better and better all the time. Remember that a pendulim always swings back the other way.
May 10, 2011 at 8:44 am | |
KellyO
I am one of the many who was duped into voting for President Obama in 2008, and I am with you. There is no chance in heck I would ever vote for this man again. Never in my life have I felt more betrayed than by this administration. At this point, I would give anyone else a chance. Ron Paul, from what I have heard, is a great choice.
I am one of the many who was duped into voting for President Obama in 2008, and I am with you. There is no chance in heck I would ever vote for this man again. Never in my life have I felt more betrayed than by this administration. At this point, I would give anyone else a chance. Ron Paul, from what I have heard, is a great choice.
May 10, 2011 at 10:31 am | |
Kay
I’m with you Kelly. I naively voted for that wolf in sheep’s clothing too. I’ll only vote for Ron Paul this time around. I realize now that the 2 party system is a “divide and conquer” scam. I can’t believe I fell for that BS before, I was very ignorant. I was asleep in 2008, but I’m awake now!
I’m with you Kelly. I naively voted for that wolf in sheep’s clothing too. I’ll only vote for Ron Paul this time around. I realize now that the 2 party system is a “divide and conquer” scam. I can’t believe I fell for that BS before, I was very ignorant. I was asleep in 2008, but I’m awake now!
May 10, 2011 at 11:11 am
Robert DeBeaux
Kelly, I give you many kudos on having opened your eyes to the deception of 2008. Critical thinking was available back then, just as it is now. No relapse now, please do not let yourself be beguiled by another despot. Well done.
Kelly, I give you many kudos on having opened your eyes to the deception of 2008. Critical thinking was available back then, just as it is now. No relapse now, please do not let yourself be beguiled by another despot. Well done.
May 10, 2011 at 11:19 am
kellyn
I’m a Kelly who was duped into voting for McCain whom I perceived as the lesser of two evils. i really wish I had voted for Dr. Paul last time and I definitely will this time.
I’m a Kelly who was duped into voting for McCain whom I perceived as the lesser of two evils. i really wish I had voted for Dr. Paul last time and I definitely will this time.
May 10, 2011 at 1:42 pm
GrimFandango
Unfortunately, the physics behind the actions of the pendulum have been overridden by technology. Technology in the hands of a government is a force multiplier of infinitely increasing magnitude.
Technology truly is the “Beast” that will enslave us beyond recovery. Maybe, on the most basic level, Ted Kaczynski was correct.
Unfortunately, the physics behind the actions of the pendulum have been overridden by technology. Technology in the hands of a government is a force multiplier of infinitely increasing magnitude.
Technology truly is the “Beast” that will enslave us beyond recovery. Maybe, on the most basic level, Ted Kaczynski was correct.
May 10, 2011 at 11:19 am | |
Countrygirl1362
I would have to say that Herman Cain and Allen West would make a better team, business and military exerience. They also would have the best chance of winning the election
I would have to say that Herman Cain and Allen West would make a better team, business and military exerience. They also would have the best chance of winning the election
May 10, 2011 at 12:12 pm | |
feduptoo
YOU will have the NEW, more expensive, PHONE WITH A CHIP!
Obama already has a program where he gives out cell phones to some…..we pay for that too!
Seriously, this guy is going too far, with everything!
ANYONE BUT OBAMA 2012!
YOU will have the NEW, more expensive, PHONE WITH A CHIP!
Obama already has a program where he gives out cell phones to some…..we pay for that too!
Seriously, this guy is going too far, with everything!
ANYONE BUT OBAMA 2012!
May 10, 2011 at 8:43 am | |
Stand Your Ground
Right on! Welcome to 1984!!!
Actually I think the path we are on is destined to make Orwell’s description of a totalitarian society tame in comparison.
Right on! Welcome to 1984!!!
Actually I think the path we are on is destined to make Orwell’s description of a totalitarian society tame in comparison.
May 10, 2011 at 9:07 am | |
kyle
You mean the free cell phone program started under BUSH? Facts are so nice, aren’t they?
You mean the free cell phone program started under BUSH? Facts are so nice, aren’t they?
May 10, 2011 at 9:23 am | |
TAS
Yes of course….blame everything on BUSH….If that’s the case….Thank you President Bush for the DEATH of BL! After all the administration used the information gathered while Bush was President to end the life the BL.
Yes of course….blame everything on BUSH….If that’s the case….Thank you President Bush for the DEATH of BL! After all the administration used the information gathered while Bush was President to end the life the BL.
May 10, 2011 at 9:32 am
Gail
Ok Kyle, where are your FACTS, don’t just sit there and blabber!
Ok Kyle, where are your FACTS, don’t just sit there and blabber!
May 10, 2011 at 9:32 am
BDarwin
Your information has been collected and the PLA will contact you in the middle of the night for collection. Our Ford (BHO) himself did a great deal to shift the emphasise from truth and beauty to comfort and hapiness. Things are much better now under our Ford BHO since we transformed into the welfare-tyranny of Utopia. Allah, ah bahr.
Your information has been collected and the PLA will contact you in the middle of the night for collection. Our Ford (BHO) himself did a great deal to shift the emphasise from truth and beauty to comfort and hapiness. Things are much better now under our Ford BHO since we transformed into the welfare-tyranny of Utopia. Allah, ah bahr.
May 10, 2011 at 9:45 am
henry
Bush and Obama are only puppets. The decisions are made by those that control their strings. The controllers ensure that all meaningfull policies are the same between the parties. The fluff is what you are arguing over. The only viable politician that I see that has integrity is Ron Paul.
Bush and Obama are only puppets. The decisions are made by those that control their strings. The controllers ensure that all meaningfull policies are the same between the parties. The fluff is what you are arguing over. The only viable politician that I see that has integrity is Ron Paul.
May 10, 2011 at 10:10 am
janice
As I understand this is a program that actually started under Bill Clinton then through Bush and now Obama. But, it is funded by multiple telecom companies and no taxes are used to provide the service. I think the telecom companies probably get a subsidy to provide this service but I could be wrong. It seems that the telecom companies would cover the cost of these phones through their paid customer rates.
As I understand this is a program that actually started under Bill Clinton then through Bush and now Obama. But, it is funded by multiple telecom companies and no taxes are used to provide the service. I think the telecom companies probably get a subsidy to provide this service but I could be wrong. It seems that the telecom companies would cover the cost of these phones through their paid customer rates.
May 10, 2011 at 10:31 am
UNHstudent
Why do you guys care so much about Bush vs. Obama? It’s not like anything is going to change. Remember this for the election of 2012: No matter who wins, we all lose.
Why do you guys care so much about Bush vs. Obama? It’s not like anything is going to change. Remember this for the election of 2012: No matter who wins, we all lose.
May 10, 2011 at 10:39 am
alexmom
Wrong kyle – started back in the 90′s so please stop with your sides Bush bashing which is so stupid and OLD!!! However, if you’re going to refer to facts let’s go ahead and give BUSH credit for UBL’s death. It was the continuation of HIS policies and the “horrible waterboarding” that provided intel which lead us to him or are you going to deny that??
Expanding on this theme, let’s take it further. The ONLY successes obama has had have been based on the continuation of BUSH’S policies. Um, why isn’t Gitmo closed as promised? Because Bush was correct in using that place to house TERRORISTS. Barry wanted to bring them to NYC!!! Fool!!! Why are we still in Iraq? Afghanistan? And what the he** is Libya all about. and save the “humanitarian” BS for your bleeding heart brothers and sisters. Lies, lies, lies.
Wrong kyle – started back in the 90′s so please stop with your sides Bush bashing which is so stupid and OLD!!! However, if you’re going to refer to facts let’s go ahead and give BUSH credit for UBL’s death. It was the continuation of HIS policies and the “horrible waterboarding” that provided intel which lead us to him or are you going to deny that??
Expanding on this theme, let’s take it further. The ONLY successes obama has had have been based on the continuation of BUSH’S policies. Um, why isn’t Gitmo closed as promised? Because Bush was correct in using that place to house TERRORISTS. Barry wanted to bring them to NYC!!! Fool!!! Why are we still in Iraq? Afghanistan? And what the he** is Libya all about. and save the “humanitarian” BS for your bleeding heart brothers and sisters. Lies, lies, lies.
May 10, 2011 at 11:13 am
Gary W Geiser
Bush was bad, yes. Increasing the speed towards total government control under these people is what Obuggar has done.
ANYONE BUT OBAMA 2012!
Bush was bad, yes. Increasing the speed towards total government control under these people is what Obuggar has done.
ANYONE BUT OBAMA 2012!
May 10, 2011 at 11:27 am
Lester Minortay
The program was started under Reagan—The federal “Lifeline” program was created during the Reagan Administration. Lifeline is a federal program created by the Reagan era Federal Communications Commission (FCC) in 1984. The program was enhanced under Telecommunications Act of 1996, which was supported on a broadly bipartisan basis in Congress. The FCC’s Low Income Program of the Universal Service Fund, which is administered by the Universal Service Administrative Company (USAC), is designed to ensure that quality telecommunications services are available to low-income customers at just, reasonable, and affordable rates. Lifeline support reduces eligible low-income consumers’ monthly charges for basic telephone service.
Thanks to SafeLink, Lifeline support is now available for wireless phones. Traditionally, the Lifeline program was only available as a discount on a consumer’s landline telephone bill. SafeLink Wireless was created by TracFone Wireless, Inc. when the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) recently approved the company to offer Lifeline — a public assistance program that ensures telephone service is available and affordable for low-income subscribers. SafeLink Wireless applies the Universal Service Fund subsidy to an allotment of free airtime minutes and TracFone provides the wireless handset at the company’s expense. Instead of receiving a subsidized monthly telephone bill for Lifeline service, SafeLink converts the total amount of discounted service into minutes each month for one year. The cell phone offers in-demand features: voicemail, text, three-way calling, call waiting, caller ID and access to 911.
SafeLink phones are not paid for by taxpayers or the federal government. TracFone Wireless pays for the phones and also the cost of promoting its SafeLink program to make sure that eligible consumers know about the program.
The program was started under Reagan—The federal “Lifeline” program was created during the Reagan Administration. Lifeline is a federal program created by the Reagan era Federal Communications Commission (FCC) in 1984. The program was enhanced under Telecommunications Act of 1996, which was supported on a broadly bipartisan basis in Congress. The FCC’s Low Income Program of the Universal Service Fund, which is administered by the Universal Service Administrative Company (USAC), is designed to ensure that quality telecommunications services are available to low-income customers at just, reasonable, and affordable rates. Lifeline support reduces eligible low-income consumers’ monthly charges for basic telephone service.
Thanks to SafeLink, Lifeline support is now available for wireless phones. Traditionally, the Lifeline program was only available as a discount on a consumer’s landline telephone bill. SafeLink Wireless was created by TracFone Wireless, Inc. when the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) recently approved the company to offer Lifeline — a public assistance program that ensures telephone service is available and affordable for low-income subscribers. SafeLink Wireless applies the Universal Service Fund subsidy to an allotment of free airtime minutes and TracFone provides the wireless handset at the company’s expense. Instead of receiving a subsidized monthly telephone bill for Lifeline service, SafeLink converts the total amount of discounted service into minutes each month for one year. The cell phone offers in-demand features: voicemail, text, three-way calling, call waiting, caller ID and access to 911.
SafeLink phones are not paid for by taxpayers or the federal government. TracFone Wireless pays for the phones and also the cost of promoting its SafeLink program to make sure that eligible consumers know about the program.
May 10, 2011 at 11:38 am
Erik Olson
I own a telecom. We file FCC form 499 which declares our revenue, like a tax form. USAC then distributes this information to 50 different agencies, programs, individuals, animals, plants, etc. They all send us “bills” for their share of our property. In total, this amounts to about ***30%*** of our revenue (in additional to corporate taxes). We pass this on to our customers. Look at your phone bill. YOU PAY FOR THIS. Your phone bill is 30% higher than it otherwise would be.
I own a telecom. We file FCC form 499 which declares our revenue, like a tax form. USAC then distributes this information to 50 different agencies, programs, individuals, animals, plants, etc. They all send us “bills” for their share of our property. In total, this amounts to about ***30%*** of our revenue (in additional to corporate taxes). We pass this on to our customers. Look at your phone bill. YOU PAY FOR THIS. Your phone bill is 30% higher than it otherwise would be.
May 10, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Big John
Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.
May 10, 2011 at 8:43 am | |
The Freeist
There was no one to speak, but I did get a nice text from Central Services saying “have a wonderful day!”
There was no one to speak, but I did get a nice text from Central Services saying “have a wonderful day!”
May 10, 2011 at 11:43 am | |
John A
DELETE WITHOUT READING
DELETE WITHOUT READING
May 10, 2011 at 8:43 am | |
Doug Huffman
JA Ja ja Welcome to The Peoples State of NY
My cellphone is about five years old and I guaranDAMNtee that I won’t replace it to risk this further intrusion by the tyrant and his ‘ho Big Sis.
Good people ought to be armed as they will, with Wits and Guns and the Truth. Retire. Strike! If you moochers can’t then ask yourselves why?
JA Ja ja Welcome to The Peoples State of NY
My cellphone is about five years old and I guaranDAMNtee that I won’t replace it to risk this further intrusion by the tyrant and his ‘ho Big Sis.
Good people ought to be armed as they will, with Wits and Guns and the Truth. Retire. Strike! If you moochers can’t then ask yourselves why?
May 10, 2011 at 8:43 am | |
Bill
Yeah, I’ve never been paranoid in my life until the “big O” took office. I’m not trading my 3-year-old phone for a “smart phone” either.
Yeah, I’ve never been paranoid in my life until the “big O” took office. I’m not trading my 3-year-old phone for a “smart phone” either.
May 10, 2011 at 9:41 am | |
Dan
Just to give you a heads up. Your 5 year old cell phone can just as easily be tracked via the E911 system embedded into it for emergency calls. ALL cell phones have this capability in the US, even your 5 year old one.
Just to give you a heads up. Your 5 year old cell phone can just as easily be tracked via the E911 system embedded into it for emergency calls. ALL cell phones have this capability in the US, even your 5 year old one.
May 10, 2011 at 10:28 am | |
Steve
People gladly leashing themselves with their cell phones. Land of the free indeed. Turn your phones off and try looking around yourself once in a while.
People gladly leashing themselves with their cell phones. Land of the free indeed. Turn your phones off and try looking around yourself once in a while.
May 10, 2011 at 11:09 am
bubba-thump
Don’t worry, won’t cost you a thing. Within 50 years everyone will get that free chip implant behind the ear. You’ll get those messages without the hand held cell phone. …”not that lever…pull the other lever”….”don’t eat thathamburger…buy that soy biscuit” …. “you like krill, krill tastes good”…
Don’t worry, won’t cost you a thing. Within 50 years everyone will get that free chip implant behind the ear. You’ll get those messages without the hand held cell phone. …”not that lever…pull the other lever”….”don’t eat thathamburger…buy that soy biscuit” …. “you like krill, krill tastes good”…
May 10, 2011 at 10:48 am | |
K Paer
What else is in this chip? Bet they can track you.
What else is in this chip? Bet they can track you.
May 10, 2011 at 8:42 am | |
Mr. Nobody
Yep, sure enough, they can track you, but that’s been a capability for some time now. All phones in recent years have GPS receivers, and ostensibly the owner of said phone is able to disable the GPS via the interface. Law enforcement does indeed have a back door to enable the GPS receiver.
Hear of all the crimes where the perps get caught because they have a victim’s phone with them?
Now you know.
Yep, sure enough, they can track you, but that’s been a capability for some time now. All phones in recent years have GPS receivers, and ostensibly the owner of said phone is able to disable the GPS via the interface. Law enforcement does indeed have a back door to enable the GPS receiver.
Hear of all the crimes where the perps get caught because they have a victim’s phone with them?
Now you know.
May 10, 2011 at 9:02 am | |
Dan
Um, sorry to break the news to you , but all phones that are E911 capable can be tracked. They have all been trackable since the the E911 system came out years ago.
Um, sorry to break the news to you , but all phones that are E911 capable can be tracked. They have all been trackable since the the E911 system came out years ago.
May 10, 2011 at 10:19 am | |
KeepUp
The E911 may be traceable, but it certainly is not required to be able to make a 911 call in an emergency. I even wrote a letter to Verizon about how I will hold them to a wrongful death suit if my husband dies, because the 911 does not work all the time on outgoing calls. It took over 20 minutes and multiple tries just to get the address to the emergency dispatcher, while my husband was on the floor having a heart attack. I wished I had not disconnected my land line, but Verizon guaranteed that the 911 call feature works. They lied, so everyone be ware.
The E911 may be traceable, but it certainly is not required to be able to make a 911 call in an emergency. I even wrote a letter to Verizon about how I will hold them to a wrongful death suit if my husband dies, because the 911 does not work all the time on outgoing calls. It took over 20 minutes and multiple tries just to get the address to the emergency dispatcher, while my husband was on the floor having a heart attack. I wished I had not disconnected my land line, but Verizon guaranteed that the 911 call feature works. They lied, so everyone be ware.
May 10, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Rrm
Maybe ‘The One” would spare us if we put statues up in the town square, or paint his poster everywhere and we could start each and every day singing his praise … My, what a vision of the Homeland.
Maybe ‘The One” would spare us if we put statues up in the town square, or paint his poster everywhere and we could start each and every day singing his praise … My, what a vision of the Homeland.
May 10, 2011 at 8:42 am | |
Erik Olson
MMM MMM MMM
Barack Hussein Obama
MMM MMM MMM
Barack Hussein Obama
MMM MMM MMM
Barack Hussein Obama
MMM MMM MMM
Barack Hussein Obama
May 10, 2011 at 4:20 pm | |
texrealist
yavol mein fuhrer
over my dead body…
yavol mein fuhrer
over my dead body…
May 10, 2011 at 8:42 am | |
Bob
The answer is in the book Nudge.
The answer is in the book Nudge.
May 10, 2011 at 8:42 am | |
Daystrom
A chip in the phone? Why not put a chip in the right hand or forehead instead. You can’t lose those, unless of course you live in a muslim country.
A chip in the phone? Why not put a chip in the right hand or forehead instead. You can’t lose those, unless of course you live in a muslim country.
May 10, 2011 at 8:41 am | |
Kaylynn
Yes well, that’s coming
Yes well, that’s coming
May 10, 2011 at 11:05 am | |
Bilbo
Cuz all the TVs and cable channels and word of mouth wouldn’t get the alert out in time…who are they kidding? This is tracking technology.
Cuz all the TVs and cable channels and word of mouth wouldn’t get the alert out in time…who are they kidding? This is tracking technology.
May 10, 2011 at 8:40 am | |
kevintheelder
This is delicious. I honestly don’t have a phone. Shouldn’t big brother have to provide one for me??? Stop the world and let me off, where does all this insanity end?
This is delicious. I honestly don’t have a phone. Shouldn’t big brother have to provide one for me??? Stop the world and let me off, where does all this insanity end?
May 10, 2011 at 8:40 am | |
Martin Hale
So many people today are more than happy to carry around their little electronic tethers. Me? Not so much. Maybe I’m just cantankerous or something, but I really don’t have that much to say to other people that I feel deprived if I don’t have a mobile device all the time.
So many people today are more than happy to carry around their little electronic tethers. Me? Not so much. Maybe I’m just cantankerous or something, but I really don’t have that much to say to other people that I feel deprived if I don’t have a mobile device all the time.
May 10, 2011 at 11:41 am | |
Limp Wrist
I hope this new chip is in the iPad 3 also. Another good reason why Apple should never have fixed the location data ” bug”. We won’t be able to find out where the terrorists have been now.
I hope this new chip is in the iPad 3 also. Another good reason why Apple should never have fixed the location data ” bug”. We won’t be able to find out where the terrorists have been now.
May 10, 2011 at 8:39 am | |
justin
I know Ron Paul will not do this as president…time to vote Ron Paul in 2012!!!
I know Ron Paul will not do this as president…time to vote Ron Paul in 2012!!!
May 10, 2011 at 8:39 am | |
GrandPa
first came the warnings – ‘the sky is falling…’
then came the medications – ‘I’m Paranoid…’
first came the warnings – ‘the sky is falling…’
then came the medications – ‘I’m Paranoid…’
May 10, 2011 at 8:39 am | |
Kevin Provance
I don’t own a cell phone…and refuse to do so for so many reasons…this being one of them.
I don’t own a cell phone…and refuse to do so for so many reasons…this being one of them.
May 10, 2011 at 8:38 am | |
steve
I’m with you!!!
I’m with you!!!
May 10, 2011 at 8:43 am | |
D Frankin
Yep – it’s time to kill your cell phone.
Yep – it’s time to kill your cell phone.
May 10, 2011 at 10:59 am
byebyebarry
They know where you just typed that comment from.
They know where you just typed that comment from.
May 10, 2011 at 10:30 am | |
Martin Hale
Slight correction – they know the IP addy of the proxy site I’m logged into at the moment. Which is two other proxy addys down the line from my real IP. Not saying that I couldn’t be found, but it would take a fairly expensive search to match up all the IP addys in a number of different logs to find me and someone would really have to want to find me to go to that effort.
Your mileage may vary.
Slight correction – they know the IP addy of the proxy site I’m logged into at the moment. Which is two other proxy addys down the line from my real IP. Not saying that I couldn’t be found, but it would take a fairly expensive search to match up all the IP addys in a number of different logs to find me and someone would really have to want to find me to go to that effort.
Your mileage may vary.
May 10, 2011 at 11:47 am
J Anderson
The Brown Shirts are fulling implementing their plan of taking over the US.
The Brown Shirts are fulling implementing their plan of taking over the US.
May 10, 2011 at 8:38 am | |
V
J Anderson – Done & Done!
J Anderson – Done & Done!
May 10, 2011 at 9:14 am | |
Jack Ciesielski
total BS. O(b)ama + O(s)ama = bullsh~t. More fake terror. it seems less and less people are falling for this nonsense. Throw out your cellphone.
total BS. O(b)ama + O(s)ama = bullsh~t. More fake terror. it seems less and less people are falling for this nonsense. Throw out your cellphone.
May 10, 2011 at 8:38 am | |
Ken
It makes little sense to toss our useful cellphones, when in 2012 we can toss our useless politicians and President. My cell phone has saved my rear from freezing to death, helped me make sure my family members were okay, etc.
M politicians and Presidents have helped me spend all the SS surplus, debase and devalue the dollar, go into trillion dollar deficits, get into three (including Obama’s) unfunded wars and have strange, demented folk search baby’s diapers at airports.
I have no problem doing the help me/hurt me math between cell phones and politicians.
It makes little sense to toss our useful cellphones, when in 2012 we can toss our useless politicians and President. My cell phone has saved my rear from freezing to death, helped me make sure my family members were okay, etc.
M politicians and Presidents have helped me spend all the SS surplus, debase and devalue the dollar, go into trillion dollar deficits, get into three (including Obama’s) unfunded wars and have strange, demented folk search baby’s diapers at airports.
I have no problem doing the help me/hurt me math between cell phones and politicians.
May 10, 2011 at 9:40 am | |
Gerry
So Incsoc arrives….. announcements from Big Brother/Great Leader will soon start.
So Incsoc arrives….. announcements from Big Brother/Great Leader will soon start.
May 10, 2011 at 8:37 am | |
vern
Remember the words, “Fundamentally transform America?”
Remember the words, “Fundamentally transform America?”
May 10, 2011 at 8:36 am | |
JuanValdez
It will all start with seemingly innocuous measure like this.
Later, if you refuse to carry a phone, they will embed a GPS chip in your spine.
It will all start with seemingly innocuous measure like this.
Later, if you refuse to carry a phone, they will embed a GPS chip in your spine.
May 10, 2011 at 8:36 am | |
madgrma
Another way for Obama to ask for money for his 2012 election, snoop on us and control our lives even more. NO THANKS
Another way for Obama to ask for money for his 2012 election, snoop on us and control our lives even more. NO THANKS
May 10, 2011 at 8:36 am | |
you're correct
Not enough of us are visiting Obaloney’s facebook page, so…
You WILL be getting Onograms from His Flagelantcy via cellphone!
Not enough of us are visiting Obaloney’s facebook page, so…
You WILL be getting Onograms from His Flagelantcy via cellphone!
May 10, 2011 at 8:35 am | |
John Pemberton
Make it stop! The federal government believes that we are all too stupid to take care of ourselves – so it will ‘mother’ us.
Make it stop! The federal government believes that we are all too stupid to take care of ourselves – so it will ‘mother’ us.
May 10, 2011 at 8:35 am | |
Bilbo
This is BS…this is nothing more than another tracking method. Leave your cell phone home.
This is BS…this is nothing more than another tracking method. Leave your cell phone home.
May 10, 2011 at 8:35 am | |
w
FBO! and FBS! Get the hell out of my wallet and pockets!
FBO! and FBS! Get the hell out of my wallet and pockets!
May 10, 2011 at 8:34 am | |
John A
Shouldn’t those who adore big brother “opt in” rather than “opt out”?
This is NOT what our Founding Fathers envisioned in a free Republic.
“The tree of liberty grows from the blood of Patriots and tyrants”
–Thomas Jefferson
Shouldn’t those who adore big brother “opt in” rather than “opt out”?
This is NOT what our Founding Fathers envisioned in a free Republic.
“The tree of liberty grows from the blood of Patriots and tyrants”
–Thomas Jefferson
May 10, 2011 at 8:34 am | |
G_volans
This oppressive administration marches on…
This oppressive administration marches on…
May 10, 2011 at 8:33 am | |
Gene
If they touch my junk, I’m going to have them arrested.
If they touch my junk, I’m going to have them arrested.
May 10, 2011 at 8:32 am | |
Greggers
“Starting next year, all new cell phones will be required to have a chip that receives the alerts.” And when did this become “law”?
“Starting next year, all new cell phones will be required to have a chip that receives the alerts.” And when did this become “law”?
May 10, 2011 at 8:32 am | |
Todd Decker
Caesar doesn’t need laws; he rules by decree (aka: executive orders and regulations).
Caesar doesn’t need laws; he rules by decree (aka: executive orders and regulations).
May 10, 2011 at 8:51 am | |
CaesarTheSalad
“Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual — uninvolved, uninformed.” – Michelle Obama
Can’t say we didn’t know what we were getting into.
“Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual — uninvolved, uninformed.” – Michelle Obama
Can’t say we didn’t know what we were getting into.
May 10, 2011 at 8:31 am | |
Zorro
Chipping and picking away at mass population control. Bits and pieces that will add up to government intrusion at it’s finest. All hail the future as it’s just around the corner. Like a jig saw puzzle, the pieces continue to fit, at first slowly, then with maddening speed, until we see the future, but by then, there’s no escape.
Chipping and picking away at mass population control. Bits and pieces that will add up to government intrusion at it’s finest. All hail the future as it’s just around the corner. Like a jig saw puzzle, the pieces continue to fit, at first slowly, then with maddening speed, until we see the future, but by then, there’s no escape.
May 10, 2011 at 8:30 am | |
Joe
Any wagers on how long before it’s used for political fundraising and other nefarious partisan purposes?
Any wagers on how long before it’s used for political fundraising and other nefarious partisan purposes?
May 10, 2011 at 8:30 am | |
Kristy
That was my thought exactly.
That was my thought exactly.
May 10, 2011 at 8:36 am | |
Cogito Ergo Sum
They’re kidding, right? This government has gone COMPLETELY insane. I will NOT buy this technology. The federal government has no business doing the majority of the things they do. Everyone needs to boycott this.
They’re kidding, right? This government has gone COMPLETELY insane. I will NOT buy this technology. The federal government has no business doing the majority of the things they do. Everyone needs to boycott this.
May 10, 2011 at 8:30 am | |
beenaroundyaknow
Perhaps the technology has improved but when my company tried to install a cell phone call system for it’s 10,000 employees the response time for the message to get out was hours because the3 system had to dial phone numbers. A text message went out very quickly in comparison. That aside, the program is ridiculous, what’s next, the government sending out paid commercials on the phones. More intrusion on my personal freedom and at what inefficient cost?
Perhaps the technology has improved but when my company tried to install a cell phone call system for it’s 10,000 employees the response time for the message to get out was hours because the3 system had to dial phone numbers. A text message went out very quickly in comparison. That aside, the program is ridiculous, what’s next, the government sending out paid commercials on the phones. More intrusion on my personal freedom and at what inefficient cost?
May 10, 2011 at 8:29 am | |
infowarrior
Just another way to spy on US and create the police state. Don’t tread on me.
Just another way to spy on US and create the police state. Don’t tread on me.
May 10, 2011 at 8:29 am | |
Dan
Haha. You are funny. You realize that the E911 chip ALREADY embedded in your phone provided triangulation tracking data for emergency responders – thus making you trackable, right? Obviously not.
Haha. You are funny. You realize that the E911 chip ALREADY embedded in your phone provided triangulation tracking data for emergency responders – thus making you trackable, right? Obviously not.
May 10, 2011 at 10:31 am | |
Steve
People need to know about location tracking, but that doesn’t mean this couldn’t provide far more information than location alone.
People need to know about location tracking, but that doesn’t mean this couldn’t provide far more information than location alone.
May 10, 2011 at 11:10 am
dj ruden
I do not want Big Brother in my pocket. No thank you…
I do not want Big Brother in my pocket. No thank you…
May 10, 2011 at 8:29 am | |
ajbj456
….now I’ll do research to opt out of this stupid thing.
….now I’ll do research to opt out of this stupid thing.
May 10, 2011 at 8:27 am | |
Archy Cary
Next it’ll be all cell phones to receive Obama for Reelection ads.
Next it’ll be all cell phones to receive Obama for Reelection ads.
May 10, 2011 at 8:27 am | |
calirangt
One can’t help but wonder how long it is before the WH figures out how to IM every cell-phone carryin’ American.
One can’t help but wonder how long it is before the WH figures out how to IM every cell-phone carryin’ American.
May 10, 2011 at 8:26 am | |
Thomas
Just another good reason to not own a cell phone!
Just another good reason to not own a cell phone!
May 10, 2011 at 8:26 am | |
Lola
Please no more false terror attacks!
Bin Laden death a fake, to push more government control
Please no more false terror attacks!
Bin Laden death a fake, to push more government control
May 10, 2011 at 8:26 am | |
Cogito Ergo Sum
I’m with you Lola. Unfortunately, many people don’t realize it, because in doing so you have to admit that our government was behind 9-11 and most people aren’t ready to. More and more people are waking up though. I hope that the awakening continues. I’m tired of people calling me an idiot because I don’t believe in the government anymore. The fake 2 party system is a cancer that is destroying our country. We need to unite, not divide.
I’m with you Lola. Unfortunately, many people don’t realize it, because in doing so you have to admit that our government was behind 9-11 and most people aren’t ready to. More and more people are waking up though. I hope that the awakening continues. I’m tired of people calling me an idiot because I don’t believe in the government anymore. The fake 2 party system is a cancer that is destroying our country. We need to unite, not divide.
May 10, 2011 at 8:34 am | |
D Franklin
Exactly! People need to forget the Democrat/Republican BS – we are all Americans first and we need to act like it.
Exactly! People need to forget the Democrat/Republican BS – we are all Americans first and we need to act like it.
May 10, 2011 at 11:04 am
William
maybe you are the doddering old fool….
maybe you are the doddering old fool….
May 10, 2011 at 8:37 am | |
Cogito Ergo Sum
See what I mean? The response is almost Pavlovian. (BTW: I’m 25, not really old lol)
See what I mean? The response is almost Pavlovian. (BTW: I’m 25, not really old lol)
May 10, 2011 at 8:44 am
Hank Warren
Fake terror to ramp up the police state, yet another violation of our rights. Add it to the list of gov’t violations of our right:
They violate the 1st Amendment by placing protesters in cages, banning books like “America Deceived II” and censoring the internet.
They violate the 2nd Amendment by confiscating guns.
They violate the 4th and 5th Amendment by molesting airline passengers.
They violate the entire Constitution by starting undeclared wars for foreign countries.
Impeach Obama and sweep out the Congress.
(Last link of Banned Book):
http://www.iuniverse.com/Bookstore/BookDetail.aspx?BookId=SKU-000190526
Fake terror to ramp up the police state, yet another violation of our rights. Add it to the list of gov’t violations of our right:
They violate the 1st Amendment by placing protesters in cages, banning books like “America Deceived II” and censoring the internet.
They violate the 2nd Amendment by confiscating guns.
They violate the 4th and 5th Amendment by molesting airline passengers.
They violate the entire Constitution by starting undeclared wars for foreign countries.
Impeach Obama and sweep out the Congress.
(Last link of Banned Book):
http://www.iuniverse.com/Bookstore/BookDetail.aspx?BookId=SKU-000190526
May 10, 2011 at 8:25 am | |
stank
Go to hell, Hank.
Go to hell, Hank.
May 10, 2011 at 8:40 am | |
CC
It’s not a violation of any amendment to be “molested” when flying commercially. You are not obligated under any facet of the imagination to fly. You choose to fly. As an airline owner, there should be more investigation in what steps the government has to be involved in flying, but again…you do not have to fly.
It’s not a violation of any amendment to be “molested” when flying commercially. You are not obligated under any facet of the imagination to fly. You choose to fly. As an airline owner, there should be more investigation in what steps the government has to be involved in flying, but again…you do not have to fly.
May 10, 2011 at 9:39 am | |
Sister Grace
Ever hear of bomb & drug sniffing dogs. dogs can detect explosive vapors at 500 parts per TRILLION. Dogs are used to find ting cancerous tumors that scans miss. Dogs warn persons with epilepsy, diabetes & narcolepsy of oncoming attacks. dogs are excellent observers/decoders of human/behavior intent – literally smell fear, aggression & many other emotions. Dogs isolate on or several scents simultaneously. Dogs are non intrusive, cost effective, and would significantly reduce waiting times. Dogs p/u scents from several feet away & simply sit to alert. Dogs can smell rectal bombs. R ppl suppose to swim to Hawaii? Some ppl’s jobs require them to fly. How about if your afraid of a terrorist attack on a plane, YOU don’t fly.
Ever hear of bomb & drug sniffing dogs. dogs can detect explosive vapors at 500 parts per TRILLION. Dogs are used to find ting cancerous tumors that scans miss. Dogs warn persons with epilepsy, diabetes & narcolepsy of oncoming attacks. dogs are excellent observers/decoders of human/behavior intent – literally smell fear, aggression & many other emotions. Dogs isolate on or several scents simultaneously. Dogs are non intrusive, cost effective, and would significantly reduce waiting times. Dogs p/u scents from several feet away & simply sit to alert. Dogs can smell rectal bombs. R ppl suppose to swim to Hawaii? Some ppl’s jobs require them to fly. How about if your afraid of a terrorist attack on a plane, YOU don’t fly.
May 10, 2011 at 10:14 am
CC
I never said I agreed with the TSA or the manner in which we’re searching. I’m saying that it’s not unconstitutional. As much as I appreciate your somewhat incoherent message….you’re missing my point.
Plus…there was this thing that was around long before airplanes. It’s called a boat. If you’re that opposed to current security measures look into it. And if you have a job that requires you to frequently violate your personal beliefs…get a new one. No law forcing it.
I never said I agreed with the TSA or the manner in which we’re searching. I’m saying that it’s not unconstitutional. As much as I appreciate your somewhat incoherent message….you’re missing my point.
Plus…there was this thing that was around long before airplanes. It’s called a boat. If you’re that opposed to current security measures look into it. And if you have a job that requires you to frequently violate your personal beliefs…get a new one. No law forcing it.
May 10, 2011 at 10:21 am
DH
Glad to hear you don’t agree with the TSA. However, it seems like you are missing the point in all this. You are correct that “you are not obligated to fly” but seriously, a boat. If the government would just remove themselves from this and let the airlines take care of security as they see fit, then you would have the REAL FREEDOM of choice in the matter, as you would be able to pick and choose which airline you feel most comfortable with. That would be true freedom of choice. But when there is a government official at every gate prepared to conduct an illegal search without probable cause (other than the fact you want to fly somewhere) then that is 100% violating YOUR 4th amendment. Kind of confusing when you say, do something else there is no law enforcing it. When the exact opposite is what is happening,
Glad to hear you don’t agree with the TSA. However, it seems like you are missing the point in all this. You are correct that “you are not obligated to fly” but seriously, a boat. If the government would just remove themselves from this and let the airlines take care of security as they see fit, then you would have the REAL FREEDOM of choice in the matter, as you would be able to pick and choose which airline you feel most comfortable with. That would be true freedom of choice. But when there is a government official at every gate prepared to conduct an illegal search without probable cause (other than the fact you want to fly somewhere) then that is 100% violating YOUR 4th amendment. Kind of confusing when you say, do something else there is no law enforcing it. When the exact opposite is what is happening,
May 10, 2011 at 10:49 am
J. Lorraine
How about the fourth amendment CC? No matter where I am, no matter what I do, my person has the “RIGHT” to be secure from unnecessary searches. “On a plane, in a house, with a mouse.”
Implementing the TSA’s tactics is not a necessity. We all need not stand in line and be frisked because Saudi’s in 2001 overtook planes and crashed them. There hasn’t been any successful attack in a decade and that is due to people on planes having the information that Muslims are out to get us. All middle eastern males and females need to be searched until they get the message that they are being watched.
How about the fourth amendment CC? No matter where I am, no matter what I do, my person has the “RIGHT” to be secure from unnecessary searches. “On a plane, in a house, with a mouse.”
Implementing the TSA’s tactics is not a necessity. We all need not stand in line and be frisked because Saudi’s in 2001 overtook planes and crashed them. There hasn’t been any successful attack in a decade and that is due to people on planes having the information that Muslims are out to get us. All middle eastern males and females need to be searched until they get the message that they are being watched.
May 10, 2011 at 11:02 am
D Franklin
I think it is if the governement is doing it – and they are. It’s not like the airlines decided this was needed – the governement forced the airlines to comply.
I think it is if the governement is doing it – and they are. It’s not like the airlines decided this was needed – the governement forced the airlines to comply.
May 10, 2011 at 11:08 am
CC
But again…this is an issue for the airlines, not the people. And it’s your decision to fly, regardless of the inconveniences (seriously…a boat).
But again…this is an issue for the airlines, not the people. And it’s your decision to fly, regardless of the inconveniences (seriously…a boat).
May 10, 2011 at 11:12 am
DH
CC,
You are absolutly right when you say that you don’t have to fly. AND you are absolutly right that this is an issue for the airlines. SO, when the government enters and says to ALL of the airlines, you are going to to do x y and z or you will be fined to the point of bankruptcy, no other option. You can’t agree that is unconstitutional, forget the 4th amendment stuff. The airlines didn’t go to the government and say, ok its time for you to tell us how to run things, we don’t know what to do. Ask any business owner if he/she would like the government to write their policies for them. They were forced to do it .
CC,
You are absolutly right when you say that you don’t have to fly. AND you are absolutly right that this is an issue for the airlines. SO, when the government enters and says to ALL of the airlines, you are going to to do x y and z or you will be fined to the point of bankruptcy, no other option. You can’t agree that is unconstitutional, forget the 4th amendment stuff. The airlines didn’t go to the government and say, ok its time for you to tell us how to run things, we don’t know what to do. Ask any business owner if he/she would like the government to write their policies for them. They were forced to do it .
May 10, 2011 at 11:49 am
CC
Which is a different issue of constitutionality. The government has no place in the market. I agree with that completely. I am as right wing as can be (and living in the borderline communist state of MA…so I’m sure we won’t be far behind with this text message alert system and will find a way to tax it, too…) and am actively involved in the tea party. I just struggle with people pitching a fit about something that you don’t have to do.
I think the government should be completely uninvolved in my daily life (including schools).
Which is a different issue of constitutionality. The government has no place in the market. I agree with that completely. I am as right wing as can be (and living in the borderline communist state of MA…so I’m sure we won’t be far behind with this text message alert system and will find a way to tax it, too…) and am actively involved in the tea party. I just struggle with people pitching a fit about something that you don’t have to do.
I think the government should be completely uninvolved in my daily life (including schools).
May 10, 2011 at 11:53 am
Sister Grace
Government Motors (GM) is also making Onstar standard equipment on all new vehicles, and is now available for all makes and models of vehicles. Facebook has saved the Department of Homeland Security and the CIA millions. Government already knows who all your friends & family are – your genealogy is also available online. It’s not about keeping you safe, it’s about control. I don’t need a surrogate parent. It’s about time the WH be added to the “Do Not Call ” list!
BTW – Explosive & drug sniffing dogs are non-intrusive, cost effective, highly effective alternative to “pat downs” and “scans” note CC insulted instead of coming up with a viable argument against using dogs because there is none. Dogs could be placed at airport entrances so bombs would not even make it inside. The fact dogs are not being used is proof that it is not about safety but about control.
Government Motors (GM) is also making Onstar standard equipment on all new vehicles, and is now available for all makes and models of vehicles. Facebook has saved the Department of Homeland Security and the CIA millions. Government already knows who all your friends & family are – your genealogy is also available online. It’s not about keeping you safe, it’s about control. I don’t need a surrogate parent. It’s about time the WH be added to the “Do Not Call ” list!
BTW – Explosive & drug sniffing dogs are non-intrusive, cost effective, highly effective alternative to “pat downs” and “scans” note CC insulted instead of coming up with a viable argument against using dogs because there is none. Dogs could be placed at airport entrances so bombs would not even make it inside. The fact dogs are not being used is proof that it is not about safety but about control.
May 10, 2011 at 12:03 pm
CC
I didn’t insult the dogs…just the coherency of your post. And I’m not opposed to dogs. I think it brings forth some cost issues and some other problems that need to be well thought out, but I’m certainly not opposed. I’m truly game for any solution that makes sense.
I didn’t insult the dogs…just the coherency of your post. And I’m not opposed to dogs. I think it brings forth some cost issues and some other problems that need to be well thought out, but I’m certainly not opposed. I’m truly game for any solution that makes sense.
May 10, 2011 at 12:10 pm
DH
But an unconstitutional issue none the less. Because eventually Those policies infringe on the liberties of us all. Which is exactly what this government should be protecting and are not.They would instead turn their head and hide behind the patriot act. Look, I think we are close in beliefs here I just believe that you should not turn the other way and find a new way to do things as the government grows and grows. Eventually, maybe fifty years from now, but eventually the Transportation Security Administration (not the airline security administration) could possibly be involved directly with all modes of transportation. Then what do you do, ya know. I heard a clip of Bruce Fein saying in opposition of the patriot act that “The default position of the constitution is that liberty is more important than the convienience of law enforcement.” How convienient for them to be able to search everyone that chooses to fly. Take care. Don’t get cornered.
Ron PAul 2012
But an unconstitutional issue none the less. Because eventually Those policies infringe on the liberties of us all. Which is exactly what this government should be protecting and are not.They would instead turn their head and hide behind the patriot act. Look, I think we are close in beliefs here I just believe that you should not turn the other way and find a new way to do things as the government grows and grows. Eventually, maybe fifty years from now, but eventually the Transportation Security Administration (not the airline security administration) could possibly be involved directly with all modes of transportation. Then what do you do, ya know. I heard a clip of Bruce Fein saying in opposition of the patriot act that “The default position of the constitution is that liberty is more important than the convienience of law enforcement.” How convienient for them to be able to search everyone that chooses to fly. Take care. Don’t get cornered.
Ron PAul 2012
May 10, 2011 at 12:35 pm
KeepUp
Fourth Amendment – Protection from unreasonable search and seizure.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
CC you need to reread the Bill of Rights. To be searched means they must have probable cause to believe you are a terrorist or swore off your allegiance to the United States of America and gave some other heinous type of oath or affirmation. I can see why they must search you, it appears that you are of the Nazi regime.
Fourth Amendment – Protection from unreasonable search and seizure.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
CC you need to reread the Bill of Rights. To be searched means they must have probable cause to believe you are a terrorist or swore off your allegiance to the United States of America and gave some other heinous type of oath or affirmation. I can see why they must search you, it appears that you are of the Nazi regime.
May 10, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Dave
What else does this new chip do?
What else does this new chip do?
May 10, 2011 at 8:25 am | |
eilspaul
Dave,
remember the swirl around the recent Google story, where your every move is tracked and recorded in a file on your iPhone??? Since healthcare was mandated by the government, I’m sure cell phones could be mandated, too. Another freebie– taxpayers will be funding the purchase of cell phones for everyone. It wouldn’t be fair that poor people don’t get the same terror alerts as those evil bankers.
Dave,
remember the swirl around the recent Google story, where your every move is tracked and recorded in a file on your iPhone??? Since healthcare was mandated by the government, I’m sure cell phones could be mandated, too. Another freebie– taxpayers will be funding the purchase of cell phones for everyone. It wouldn’t be fair that poor people don’t get the same terror alerts as those evil bankers.
May 10, 2011 at 8:37 am | |
Bilbo
shhhhh….
shhhhh….
May 10, 2011 at 8:37 am | |
Fanny Forbes Franklen
Just say no to ØmeriKa.
——- http://911essentials.com
Just say no to ØmeriKa.
——- http://911essentials.com
May 10, 2011 at 8:22 am | |
j
well he sets the agenda for the news cycle and 40 million people a day look at his site, what did you do with your life, and whats your net worth?
well he sets the agenda for the news cycle and 40 million people a day look at his site, what did you do with your life, and whats your net worth?
May 10, 2011 at 8:42 am | |
Eugene
K, And? What does barely graduating from high school have to do with success in the future? He doesn’t control my information. All his website does is link stories that other people have posted. It is up to you, me, or anyone else to look elsewhere to see alternative points of view.
K, And? What does barely graduating from high school have to do with success in the future? He doesn’t control my information. All his website does is link stories that other people have posted. It is up to you, me, or anyone else to look elsewhere to see alternative points of view.
May 10, 2011 at 8:50 am | |
Tony
Funny how people like K believe that a college piece of paper grants them “genius” status. Most kids that go to college spend 300k to learn stuff they should have learned in HS and party most of the time. I am not knocking all students, a small percentage do specialize. But most just think they have to go and get degrees in sports or HR or other worthless degrees. The next bubble to pop (that we will all get stuck paying for) is the education bubble. And like the rest have pointed out, Drudge just posts links.
Funny how people like K believe that a college piece of paper grants them “genius” status. Most kids that go to college spend 300k to learn stuff they should have learned in HS and party most of the time. I am not knocking all students, a small percentage do specialize. But most just think they have to go and get degrees in sports or HR or other worthless degrees. The next bubble to pop (that we will all get stuck paying for) is the education bubble. And like the rest have pointed out, Drudge just posts links.
May 10, 2011 at 9:08 am | |
Jeff
What does level of state-approved education have to do with good journalism and web content management?
Nothing.
What does level of state-approved education have to do with good journalism and web content management?
Nothing.
May 10, 2011 at 9:27 am | |
Ken
Drudge provides links to other sites, no information of his own. One might also note that Drudge can not push the offered material on anyone as this does, nor does he raise the cost of your computer by demanding that a drudge-chip be installed.
It always amuses me when an obviously less-than-clever person alludes to the lack of cleverness he or she sees in his or her political opponents. It also explains why so many voters see themselves as independent, rather than democrat or republican.
Drudge provides links to other sites, no information of his own. One might also note that Drudge can not push the offered material on anyone as this does, nor does he raise the cost of your computer by demanding that a drudge-chip be installed.
It always amuses me when an obviously less-than-clever person alludes to the lack of cleverness he or she sees in his or her political opponents. It also explains why so many voters see themselves as independent, rather than democrat or republican.
May 10, 2011 at 9:28 am | |
L
That does not necessarily mean anything. Some of the smartest kids are the dropouts. (Also, check out the IQ’s of the people sitting in prisons.) Grades indicate only the willingness of the student to complete the assignment and turn it in. The majority of the gifted and talented kids in many schools are not reflected in their GPA.
That does not necessarily mean anything. Some of the smartest kids are the dropouts. (Also, check out the IQ’s of the people sitting in prisons.) Grades indicate only the willingness of the student to complete the assignment and turn it in. The majority of the gifted and talented kids in many schools are not reflected in their GPA.
May 10, 2011 at 9:34 am | |
MJL
and Thomas Edison was kicked out of school because he was too slow and mentally challenged to be educated. Winston Churchill, and Eli Whitney both had great difficulty in school and according to MENSA, nearly one half of the people in North America with IQs of 140+, never graduated high school. What is your point about Matt Drudge?
and Thomas Edison was kicked out of school because he was too slow and mentally challenged to be educated. Winston Churchill, and Eli Whitney both had great difficulty in school and according to MENSA, nearly one half of the people in North America with IQs of 140+, never graduated high school. What is your point about Matt Drudge?
May 10, 2011 at 9:35 am | |
Meister
Is it that he doesn’t kiss Obamas behind that you feel it the need to insult?
Is it that he doesn’t kiss Obamas behind that you feel it the need to insult?
May 10, 2011 at 9:51 am | |
BDarwin
Adults and Liberals will never get along; ever.
Adults and Liberals will never get along; ever.
May 10, 2011 at 10:04 am | |
Sandy Lester
Well sweetie you are on a CBS site, Drudge did not write this. Drudge may or may not have graduated from HS, but he did turn a passion into a multi million dollar business – are you jealous?
Well sweetie you are on a CBS site, Drudge did not write this. Drudge may or may not have graduated from HS, but he did turn a passion into a multi million dollar business – are you jealous?
May 10, 2011 at 10:08 am | |
Rosemary Smith
Isn’t that the truth!
Isn’t that the truth!
May 10, 2011 at 8:44 am | |
Smark
Yeah, the government only had about 50 pieces of information wrong on the killing of OBL and they were watching it when it happened!! I can only imagine the “value” of getting Big Sis’ texts, “…look out for hunters, men in camo, returning US soldiers, all southern whites, Christian conservatives, Tea Party members and those with ‘Don’t Tread on Me’ flags…..”
Yeah, the government only had about 50 pieces of information wrong on the killing of OBL and they were watching it when it happened!! I can only imagine the “value” of getting Big Sis’ texts, “…look out for hunters, men in camo, returning US soldiers, all southern whites, Christian conservatives, Tea Party members and those with ‘Don’t Tread on Me’ flags…..”
May 10, 2011 at 8:57 am | |
Tbags4Freedom
Nope. Those of us screaming about our liberties know who the real enemy is: GOVERNMENT. The Sheeple can bleat all they want. Just stay the hell out of our way. We are coming to take our country back.
Nope. Those of us screaming about our liberties know who the real enemy is: GOVERNMENT. The Sheeple can bleat all they want. Just stay the hell out of our way. We are coming to take our country back.
May 10, 2011 at 9:03 am | |
Cogito Ergo Sum
Matt Drudge didn’t write the article, he just linked it.
Matt Drudge didn’t write the article, he just linked it.
May 10, 2011 at 8:46 am | |
feduptoo
First I doubt you even know Drudge…
Second…he only publishes headlines…that link to the stories others have written!
Grow up!
First I doubt you even know Drudge…
Second…he only publishes headlines…that link to the stories others have written!
Grow up!
May 10, 2011 at 8:47 am | |
Smark
This is a CBSNY story. What’s really your point? I suspect it’s an irritation with news being widely shared contrary to the One’s wishes. Drudge doesn’t control information. His site merely links stories that the leftist propaganda machine refuses to circulate. Of course CBS didn’t have one question concerning the governmental intrusion of such a plan. No doubt this will be the first step toward providing the recipient class with new smartphones and service contracts at the expense of the taxpayer.
This is a CBSNY story. What’s really your point? I suspect it’s an irritation with news being widely shared contrary to the One’s wishes. Drudge doesn’t control information. His site merely links stories that the leftist propaganda machine refuses to circulate. Of course CBS didn’t have one question concerning the governmental intrusion of such a plan. No doubt this will be the first step toward providing the recipient class with new smartphones and service contracts at the expense of the taxpayer.
May 10, 2011 at 8:52 am | |
Jack
No kidding, you idiot. He only links to the headlines. Man you are stupid.
No kidding, you idiot. He only links to the headlines. Man you are stupid.
May 10, 2011 at 8:59 am | |
Quiet I'm Talking
Obama thinks there are 57 United States. So, why would you trust him to control your life?
Obama thinks there are 57 United States. So, why would you trust him to control your life?
May 10, 2011 at 9:04 am | |
Steve S
I’m guessing that is a slight rhetorical question. You know that those on your side are the dimwits. Think inner city low income high school dropouts. Think Ivy league silver spoon fed trust fund babies, looking for a cause. Think winners of life’s lotteries like the dotcom bust cash out crowd. Think big biz like Goldman Sachs sucking off the government teet. Think GE Immelt, taking bailout cash and buying Volt’s/ None of these, those whom you think smart are in fact all either lucky or repeated failures. Not a hard worker in the bunch. Thieves one and all. Anti-Liberty goons.
I’m guessing that is a slight rhetorical question. You know that those on your side are the dimwits. Think inner city low income high school dropouts. Think Ivy league silver spoon fed trust fund babies, looking for a cause. Think winners of life’s lotteries like the dotcom bust cash out crowd. Think big biz like Goldman Sachs sucking off the government teet. Think GE Immelt, taking bailout cash and buying Volt’s/ None of these, those whom you think smart are in fact all either lucky or repeated failures. Not a hard worker in the bunch. Thieves one and all. Anti-Liberty goons.
May 10, 2011 at 9:05 am | |
Spanky
Ted, go look up the word “tool”
Ted, go look up the word “tool”
May 10, 2011 at 9:06 am | |
SW
Silly little comment by Ted. Boring and nonsensical while critical, and therefore near and dear to some liberal heart.
Silly little comment by Ted. Boring and nonsensical while critical, and therefore near and dear to some liberal heart.
May 10, 2011 at 9:07 am | |
V
Ted, I think you should not only get the first *new* phone, but you should get an implant as well!
Ted, I think you should not only get the first *new* phone, but you should get an implant as well!
May 10, 2011 at 9:10 am | |
H. E. Vincent
Bathroom- Cabinet behind mirror- pull edge of door to open- second shelf from bottom- brownish plastic container w/white cap (get help opening as it is idiot proof)- label read something about mood modifier or similar- take as per writing on label- don’t bother calling Dr (they quit accepting medicare after health care law passed)- go play by yourself in dark closet-
Last but not least- remove head from rear and attempt to scrub brown ring around your neck from remaining up up your butt for so long-
Warning!!! brown ring stain may be permanent after being in place for so long!!!
Bathroom- Cabinet behind mirror- pull edge of door to open- second shelf from bottom- brownish plastic container w/white cap (get help opening as it is idiot proof)- label read something about mood modifier or similar- take as per writing on label- don’t bother calling Dr (they quit accepting medicare after health care law passed)- go play by yourself in dark closet-
Last but not least- remove head from rear and attempt to scrub brown ring around your neck from remaining up up your butt for so long-
Warning!!! brown ring stain may be permanent after being in place for so long!!!
May 10, 2011 at 9:12 am | |
Sean
Is this written by Drudge?
Is this written by Drudge?
May 10, 2011 at 8:50 am | |
Libsmasher
Can it troll!…Matt Drudge doesn’t write these stories. He just features them. Beside that where’s your ultra popular website? Jealous fool.
Can it troll!…Matt Drudge doesn’t write these stories. He just features them. Beside that where’s your ultra popular website? Jealous fool.
May 10, 2011 at 8:57 am | |
Luc
How many brain cells does each sip of Kool-Aid destroy? Drudge links to the article. If you look at the byline you will see it is originally from CBS. Though you rank on Drudge because of his real or imagined difficulties in High School yet it’s you reading him. Not the other way around. It’s you knowing his name. Not the other way around. Must really chap your ass.
How many brain cells does each sip of Kool-Aid destroy? Drudge links to the article. If you look at the byline you will see it is originally from CBS. Though you rank on Drudge because of his real or imagined difficulties in High School yet it’s you reading him. Not the other way around. It’s you knowing his name. Not the other way around. Must really chap your ass.
May 10, 2011 at 9:51 am | |
bddd
So Timmy, shouldn’t I be able to “opt-out” of the Presidential messages as well? We are ‘forced/coerced’ to receive the Chairman’s messages? Do you see a problem with that comrade? I do. I’m not interested in anything he has to say except for his speech in Nov 2012 when he loses the election!
So Timmy, shouldn’t I be able to “opt-out” of the Presidential messages as well? We are ‘forced/coerced’ to receive the Chairman’s messages? Do you see a problem with that comrade? I do. I’m not interested in anything he has to say except for his speech in Nov 2012 when he loses the election!
May 10, 2011 at 9:53 am | |
Jerry
Yet, I’m sure he earns way more than you do Tim.
Yet, I’m sure he earns way more than you do Tim.
May 10, 2011 at 10:01 am | |
Gary Brown
Tim you commit the fallacy of believing that credentials equal intelligence and a lack of credentials indicates a lack of intelligence. Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg would be less intelligent than someone who graduates from college with a degree in basket weaving according to your rating system. Sometimes people don’t graduate high school because their intelligence makes it boring and they are already way beyond it in their learning. Your logic indicates that you probably have some sort of credential but should probably go back to school…
Tim you commit the fallacy of believing that credentials equal intelligence and a lack of credentials indicates a lack of intelligence. Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg would be less intelligent than someone who graduates from college with a degree in basket weaving according to your rating system. Sometimes people don’t graduate high school because their intelligence makes it boring and they are already way beyond it in their learning. Your logic indicates that you probably have some sort of credential but should probably go back to school…
May 10, 2011 at 10:01 am | |
Not Tim
Drudge only links to stories. This a CBS news bit, genius.
Drudge only links to stories. This a CBS news bit, genius.
May 10, 2011 at 10:02 am | |
Ace
Tim lives in his parents basement and plays with himself daily. How do you like it Timmy when people make up lies about you?!
Tim lives in his parents basement and plays with himself daily. How do you like it Timmy when people make up lies about you?!
May 10, 2011 at 10:03 am | |
Sandy Lester
That’s just weird Timmy Boy, you re on a CBS site. Does Drudge now write for CBS?
That’s just weird Timmy Boy, you re on a CBS site. Does Drudge now write for CBS?
May 10, 2011 at 10:03 am | |
Alabama Patriot
If Matt is no so bright, as you imply, why are you reading his site?
Back to Daily KOS, troglidyte!
If Matt is no so bright, as you imply, why are you reading his site?
Back to Daily KOS, troglidyte!
May 10, 2011 at 10:03 am | |
Rick in Houston
Irony at its finest, Tim. LMFAO
Irony at its finest, Tim. LMFAO
May 10, 2011 at 10:03 am | |
greg
Geeze Tim you are evidently and idiot.
Geeze Tim you are evidently and idiot.
May 10, 2011 at 10:06 am | |
mary
Umm, I think you’d have to come through Drudge to know this was featured on Drudge…whatta genius.
Umm, I think you’d have to come through Drudge to know this was featured on Drudge…whatta genius.
May 10, 2011 at 10:08 am | |
Mark
What an obliviot! (to explain Tim, you’re an oblivious idiot… get it? …okay, probably not).
What an obliviot! (to explain Tim, you’re an oblivious idiot… get it? …okay, probably not).
May 10, 2011 at 10:08 am | |
Karen
Well,, one of the first things Hitler and the Nazi party did was to hand out radios. They were required in every household. They were then used for propaganda.
Well,, one of the first things Hitler and the Nazi party did was to hand out radios. They were required in every household. They were then used for propaganda.
May 10, 2011 at 8:50 am | |
Truthforlibs
Free phones already available for the poor from Obama-I think it is Safe….
Just cancel your text service with your provider.
Free phones already available for the poor from Obama-I think it is Safe….
Just cancel your text service with your provider.
May 10, 2011 at 8:50 am | |
elizabeth cobble
The government already does provide cell phones. Crazy, isn’t it?
The government already does provide cell phones. Crazy, isn’t it?
May 10, 2011 at 8:54 am | |
Lady Tiger
There is already an extensive give away of free cell phones to those who qualify. We pay for that as well
There is already an extensive give away of free cell phones to those who qualify. We pay for that as well
May 10, 2011 at 9:20 am | |
Lisa
The govt already gives out “free” cell phones to the welfare brigade. YOU, the taxpayer, are paying for thier cell phone calls. Watch the ads on TV for the cell phone service. Look at the people using them.
The govt already gives out “free” cell phones to the welfare brigade. YOU, the taxpayer, are paying for thier cell phone calls. Watch the ads on TV for the cell phone service. Look at the people using them.
May 10, 2011 at 9:24 am | |
Mike
1984 is here!
1984 is here!
May 10, 2011 at 8:52 am | |
Moe
Ditto!
Ditto!
May 10, 2011 at 8:54 am | |
Mad Max
@ Ted
President obama never held a job or ran a business.
So why did you vote for him to be leader of the United States?
@ Ted
President obama never held a job or ran a business.
So why did you vote for him to be leader of the United States?
May 10, 2011 at 9:05 am | |
LoonsToTheLeftOfMe
JB, believe it or not, there is already such a government program in place. See https://www.safelinkwireless.com/EnrollmentPublic/Home.aspx
JB, believe it or not, there is already such a government program in place. See https://www.safelinkwireless.com/EnrollmentPublic/Home.aspx
May 10, 2011 at 8:57 am | |
oracle2world
Yes, illegal immigrants need to be provided for.
Yes, illegal immigrants need to be provided for.
May 10, 2011 at 9:13 am | |
george
And so, will we be required to acknowledge receipt of the message? Further enabling tracking? Will we have to acknowledge “under penalty of perjury?”
And so, will we be required to acknowledge receipt of the message? Further enabling tracking? Will we have to acknowledge “under penalty of perjury?”
May 10, 2011 at 10:32 am | |
Fanny Forbes Franklen
“The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury.” ~ George Washington —– http://911essentials.com
“The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury.” ~ George Washington —– http://911essentials.com
May 10, 2011 at 10:35 am | |
Beerman309
That’s already happening. Welfare includes phones phones with like 250 minutes per month.
That’s already happening. Welfare includes phones phones with like 250 minutes per month.
May 10, 2011 at 10:37 am | |
anon
Basically. Yes.
Basically. Yes.
May 10, 2011 at 10:43 am | |
Unbelievable
YEP!!
YEP!!
May 10, 2011 at 10:44 am | |
kimm
I wouldn’t carry a flipping iPhone if it were FREE! Not everyone is stupid enough to USE cell phones, microwaves, aspartame or heroin. It’s not treat….they give them free because they want to harm the poor, Mr. Silver Spoons!
I wouldn’t carry a flipping iPhone if it were FREE! Not everyone is stupid enough to USE cell phones, microwaves, aspartame or heroin. It’s not treat….they give them free because they want to harm the poor, Mr. Silver Spoons!
May 10, 2011 at 10:49 am | |
QT
They got to get their fear propaganda to you some how. Guess the television programing is not getting to enough people.
They got to get their fear propaganda to you some how. Guess the television programing is not getting to enough people.
May 10, 2011 at 10:56 am | |
tommy t
Does this mean that “Joe The Taxpayer” will then be on the hook for up to 40 million new users, the same that have no health insurance and are on food stamps? Hope they are considering also paying for cable TV; its the fair thing to do.
Does this mean that “Joe The Taxpayer” will then be on the hook for up to 40 million new users, the same that have no health insurance and are on food stamps? Hope they are considering also paying for cable TV; its the fair thing to do.
May 10, 2011 at 11:01 am | |
Bob
If you read the article it said you would get the messages even if you DO NOT have texting.
If you read the article it said you would get the messages even if you DO NOT have texting.
May 10, 2011 at 8:59 am | |
Ga Voter
Exactly. Never dreamed it would come so easy. The sheeple in this country just laid down and don’t care. I weep for my country
Exactly. Never dreamed it would come so easy. The sheeple in this country just laid down and don’t care. I weep for my country
May 10, 2011 at 9:14 am | |
Superpower
Well put, and very accurate.
Well put, and very accurate.
May 10, 2011 at 9:16 am | |
orangemtl
No; it’s not the truth.
We’ve managed to figure things out with our ancient 20th Century technology quite well. We’ll continue to do so.
I will have nothing to do with Big Brother tracking me and issuing alerts through my phone.
“ALERT: The One is all knowing! Resist the Conservative traitors!”
Yes, I’m sure they’ll be nothing but responsible and objective in their alerts. As. If.
No; it’s not the truth.
We’ve managed to figure things out with our ancient 20th Century technology quite well. We’ll continue to do so.
I will have nothing to do with Big Brother tracking me and issuing alerts through my phone.
“ALERT: The One is all knowing! Resist the Conservative traitors!”
Yes, I’m sure they’ll be nothing but responsible and objective in their alerts. As. If.
May 10, 2011 at 9:18 am | |
No1uKnow
Apparently New Yorkers can’t function without government assistance…besides, why do we ned this service, there’s no terror threat anyway…right?
Apparently New Yorkers can’t function without government assistance…besides, why do we ned this service, there’s no terror threat anyway…right?
May 10, 2011 at 9:50 am | |
dear devin
Devin, ability to track doesn’t equate to actually tracking, which is what the iPhone was doing.. I’ll refrain from name calling.
Devin, ability to track doesn’t equate to actually tracking, which is what the iPhone was doing.. I’ll refrain from name calling.
May 10, 2011 at 9:20 am | |
Michael
Stupid F*#k! You think we don’t already know that? If you are content with the Feds tracking your every move, you deserve what will come eventually come out of that complete abuse of power. Those who give up thier freedom in the name of security are not secure at all.
Stupid F*#k! You think we don’t already know that? If you are content with the Feds tracking your every move, you deserve what will come eventually come out of that complete abuse of power. Those who give up thier freedom in the name of security are not secure at all.
May 10, 2011 at 9:23 am | |
umustbkidding
yes, but this is the government doing it for your safety, of course. They are our MEGA protectors. It’s impossible for them to be practicing any impropriety.
yes, but this is the government doing it for your safety, of course. They are our MEGA protectors. It’s impossible for them to be practicing any impropriety.
May 10, 2011 at 9:21 am | |
Nate
Another good reason to turn the dam* thing off and leave it only for real emergencies – not propaganda from His HIghness.
Another good reason to turn the dam* thing off and leave it only for real emergencies – not propaganda from His HIghness.
May 10, 2011 at 9:26 am | |
Vic Livingston
Cellphones already are being used as a primary targeting device for a covert cell tower based microwave radio frequency directed energy weapon system, deployed everywhere in America — and used to silently torture, impair, subjugate, injure, and induce disease and ill health upon Americans who have been extrajudicially tagged as “dissidents” or undesirables by ideologues and hate mongers at all levels of government — so says this veteran journalist:
http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
Cellphones already are being used as a primary targeting device for a covert cell tower based microwave radio frequency directed energy weapon system, deployed everywhere in America — and used to silently torture, impair, subjugate, injure, and induce disease and ill health upon Americans who have been extrajudicially tagged as “dissidents” or undesirables by ideologues and hate mongers at all levels of government — so says this veteran journalist:
http://nowpublic.com/world/u-s-silently-tortures-americans-cell-tower-microwaves
May 10, 2011 at 9:37 am | |
Guy Macher
Exactly! Use our economic power to defeat intrusive Big Nanny government.
Exactly! Use our economic power to defeat intrusive Big Nanny government.
May 10, 2011 at 9:37 am | |
ChocoCat
Good idea. Send me a letter to discuss this further.
Good idea. Send me a letter to discuss this further.
May 10, 2011 at 9:39 am | |
Lebelungzeit
I see a Federal lawsuit coming–from ME! I will not pay for the additional cost of a product to include this “chip” so the US government can send me presidential “messages” no matter what the emergency. I am quite capable of discerning a nuclear detonation within 100 miles of my location. It is far past the time to halt this insidious intrusion for the “safety of the people” and to “alert me.” I’ve had 57 years on this planet and managed to survive many threats, from being in Lebanon & Syria to a stampeding heard of wildebeest in South Africa. No thank you, Mr. government. I don’t care who is the president, if I want to hear from the president, I’ll make certain I seek out the media or print. I will not tolerate being interrupted on my private phone or electronic device. Take your “homeland”, “fatherland” or “motherland” to someone else (hint: sarcasm here). Once the technical details of this “chip” are discerned, I’ll personally be in Federal court. Enough already! Perhaps the time has come for a “retro-revolution” to simplify and reject the growing technology juggernaut. Have to go now, need to change the oil in my 1932 Auburn-Cord!
I see a Federal lawsuit coming–from ME! I will not pay for the additional cost of a product to include this “chip” so the US government can send me presidential “messages” no matter what the emergency. I am quite capable of discerning a nuclear detonation within 100 miles of my location. It is far past the time to halt this insidious intrusion for the “safety of the people” and to “alert me.” I’ve had 57 years on this planet and managed to survive many threats, from being in Lebanon & Syria to a stampeding heard of wildebeest in South Africa. No thank you, Mr. government. I don’t care who is the president, if I want to hear from the president, I’ll make certain I seek out the media or print. I will not tolerate being interrupted on my private phone or electronic device. Take your “homeland”, “fatherland” or “motherland” to someone else (hint: sarcasm here). Once the technical details of this “chip” are discerned, I’ll personally be in Federal court. Enough already! Perhaps the time has come for a “retro-revolution” to simplify and reject the growing technology juggernaut. Have to go now, need to change the oil in my 1932 Auburn-Cord!
May 10, 2011 at 9:47 am | |
Eagle
As Benjamin Franklin said he who gives up liberty for security has neither.
As Benjamin Franklin said he who gives up liberty for security has neither.
May 10, 2011 at 9:23 am | |
Hizzoner
Well you got one thing right: You are one of the idiots.
Well you got one thing right: You are one of the idiots.
May 10, 2011 at 9:24 am | |
Bill Brennan
Yes, the government would never do anything like that…. LOL, pick up a history book once in a while and turn off the MSNBC….
Yes, the government would never do anything like that…. LOL, pick up a history book once in a while and turn off the MSNBC….
May 10, 2011 at 9:24 am | |
Doug Huffman
We and you enjoy the rights that we defend only, including our Fourth Amendment Right to be secure in our persons, paper and property – interpreted by the courts as ‘privacy’. I’m sure that if you applied now that Bis Sis will give your gray coveralls and flip-flops now to go with your new louse proof buzz cut. You don’t have to wear your Magen David just yet, they’re working on something pink for collectivist Americans. I’m sure that you already have your tattoos.
We and you enjoy the rights that we defend only, including our Fourth Amendment Right to be secure in our persons, paper and property – interpreted by the courts as ‘privacy’. I’m sure that if you applied now that Bis Sis will give your gray coveralls and flip-flops now to go with your new louse proof buzz cut. You don’t have to wear your Magen David just yet, they’re working on something pink for collectivist Americans. I’m sure that you already have your tattoos.
May 10, 2011 at 9:25 am | |
CanaDave
Wow, you are naive…they’ll just store the data until you become a ‘person of interest’. They’ll make sure you have the right political affiliations, who your family is, who your friends are…
Wow, you are naive…they’ll just store the data until you become a ‘person of interest’. They’ll make sure you have the right political affiliations, who your family is, who your friends are…
May 10, 2011 at 9:26 am | |
Steve
Sheeple like you deserve your slavery
Sheeple like you deserve your slavery
May 10, 2011 at 9:26 am | |
Billy B
Yes–having the government send me a freakin’ TEXT MESSAGE once in a while will really compromise my liberty! And what if they TRACK me? They might find out I went to Pathmark yesterday, and that today, I’m going to Costco! My liberty, my liberty! I see the light!
Yes–having the government send me a freakin’ TEXT MESSAGE once in a while will really compromise my liberty! And what if they TRACK me? They might find out I went to Pathmark yesterday, and that today, I’m going to Costco! My liberty, my liberty! I see the light!
May 10, 2011 at 9:27 am | |
Uncle Mike
YOU people are what is the matter with us people. Not only is the principle of this whole thing repugnant on it’s face, but you apparently have no concept of what the government can and does do to establish databases on everyone. The have these things called supercomputers, you may have heard of them, and they use them to sift, sort, and process enormous volumes of raw data. I don’t want them to have the power to hijack my privately owned device to spout propaganda, and neither should anyone else. They didn’t pay for my phone and they don’t pay for the service.
YOU people are what is the matter with us people. Not only is the principle of this whole thing repugnant on it’s face, but you apparently have no concept of what the government can and does do to establish databases on everyone. The have these things called supercomputers, you may have heard of them, and they use them to sift, sort, and process enormous volumes of raw data. I don’t want them to have the power to hijack my privately owned device to spout propaganda, and neither should anyone else. They didn’t pay for my phone and they don’t pay for the service.
May 10, 2011 at 9:28 am | |
annonymous
The problem isn’t that they care where everybody is, it’s that they can track whomever they want. If you failed to pay your taxes last year, they can pull up your file and use whatever tools they’ve got to track you down, and giving them more tools to do so only makes it easier for them. In that tax evasion example, they may have just cause to want to track you down, so the tools seem harmless, but let’s say you rant politic a lot and hold contrarian positions (like many do)…as the country slips further down the statist-tubes, contrarian positions will become flags enough for them to want to track you down and shut you up. …then the tools don’t seem so benign and it won’t have been worth sacrificing your liberties.
The problem isn’t that they care where everybody is, it’s that they can track whomever they want. If you failed to pay your taxes last year, they can pull up your file and use whatever tools they’ve got to track you down, and giving them more tools to do so only makes it easier for them. In that tax evasion example, they may have just cause to want to track you down, so the tools seem harmless, but let’s say you rant politic a lot and hold contrarian positions (like many do)…as the country slips further down the statist-tubes, contrarian positions will become flags enough for them to want to track you down and shut you up. …then the tools don’t seem so benign and it won’t have been worth sacrificing your liberties.
May 10, 2011 at 9:30 am | |
Well Informed
They don’t have to have a person monitor everyone. You can have a computer process all the data and put up flags for “suspicious” behavior (ie: texts or web searches via your smart phone). Are you truly that dense to think the government didn’t find a cost saving way to help monitor suspicious activity? As with anything – Theres an App for that!
They don’t have to have a person monitor everyone. You can have a computer process all the data and put up flags for “suspicious” behavior (ie: texts or web searches via your smart phone). Are you truly that dense to think the government didn’t find a cost saving way to help monitor suspicious activity? As with anything – Theres an App for that!
May 10, 2011 at 9:33 am | |
Billy B
Oh–I see–now the government is going to track down and shut up every delusional nutjob like….well, like everyone on this board except for me. That sounds plausible. Just where are they going to get the manpower to do this? Reading all these delusional comments makes me even crazier than reading all the typical Jesus-loving comments one normally encounters here. We humans are one pathetic lot.
Oh–I see–now the government is going to track down and shut up every delusional nutjob like….well, like everyone on this board except for me. That sounds plausible. Just where are they going to get the manpower to do this? Reading all these delusional comments makes me even crazier than reading all the typical Jesus-loving comments one normally encounters here. We humans are one pathetic lot.
May 10, 2011 at 9:34 am | |
Rich
I hope you are truly kidding and just being sarcastic! You really think it good to allow the government to have access to your phone like this. While they can already track you through the cell towers (this was required to be implemented in 2004 I believe), now they want to be able to send messages to my phone also?
This country (and this particular state) is BROKE and we’re allowing them to waste money so they can push messages to my phone without even using my phone number?
I hope you are truly kidding and just being sarcastic! You really think it good to allow the government to have access to your phone like this. While they can already track you through the cell towers (this was required to be implemented in 2004 I believe), now they want to be able to send messages to my phone also?
This country (and this particular state) is BROKE and we’re allowing them to waste money so they can push messages to my phone without even using my phone number?
May 10, 2011 at 9:36 am | |
Billy B
Try reading this, you flakes:
http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/21/your-iphone-is-tracking-you-so-what/
It’s from one of the smartest, most reasonable people on the planet.
You probably won’t be able to process it, but it’s worth a try…
Try reading this, you flakes:
http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/21/your-iphone-is-tracking-you-so-what/
It’s from one of the smartest, most reasonable people on the planet.
You probably won’t be able to process it, but it’s worth a try…
May 10, 2011 at 9:38 am | |
Paul D
Wow! I think naive is not a strong enough word, but its all I can come up with right now. You are telling me that you cannot think of any reason why or how the government or anyone in the government would use or abuse the information obtained from such a device? Really??? That is sad and a little scary that sheeple exist in this day and age.
Wow! I think naive is not a strong enough word, but its all I can come up with right now. You are telling me that you cannot think of any reason why or how the government or anyone in the government would use or abuse the information obtained from such a device? Really??? That is sad and a little scary that sheeple exist in this day and age.
May 10, 2011 at 9:38 am | |
Billy B
Help me! I am enslaved! The government knows I went to 3 movies last month at the multiplex, and that last night, I ate at Friday’s! Do they know I ordered the Jack Daniels Ribs? God help me if they find out!
Paranoia–it does a brain in.
Help me! I am enslaved! The government knows I went to 3 movies last month at the multiplex, and that last night, I ate at Friday’s! Do they know I ordered the Jack Daniels Ribs? God help me if they find out!
Paranoia–it does a brain in.
May 10, 2011 at 9:44 am | |
okierx
“Presidential and local emergency messages as well as Amber Alerts would appear on cell phones equipped with special chips and software.”
What kind of Presedential message would I need to get instant messaging? Declaration of State of Emergency/
“Presidential and local emergency messages as well as Amber Alerts would appear on cell phones equipped with special chips and software.”
What kind of Presedential message would I need to get instant messaging? Declaration of State of Emergency/
May 10, 2011 at 9:23 am | |
Simple Simon
Does little Timmy trust his government so, because they are some of the best college graduating lawyers?
Does little Timmy trust his government so, because they are some of the best college graduating lawyers?
May 10, 2011 at 9:40 am | |
Rich
You won’t have a choice. I didn’t want to upgrade my phone in 2004 specifically because I knew they were adding the tracking capability/chip/software and in June of 2004 my cellphone stopped working. When I called my carrier I was told I needed a software update and they would call me back to tell me where I needed to go to get the upgrade. They called me the next day and told me the upgrade was not available and I would have to get a new phone. They admitted there was nothing wrong with my phone, but the software on it would no longer work with their network and I would have to purchase a new phone.
You won’t have a choice. I didn’t want to upgrade my phone in 2004 specifically because I knew they were adding the tracking capability/chip/software and in June of 2004 my cellphone stopped working. When I called my carrier I was told I needed a software update and they would call me back to tell me where I needed to go to get the upgrade. They called me the next day and told me the upgrade was not available and I would have to get a new phone. They admitted there was nothing wrong with my phone, but the software on it would no longer work with their network and I would have to purchase a new phone.
May 10, 2011 at 9:42 am | |
ChocoCat
Not entirely true, Drudge also lables his links, often times to give a paranoia fueled ‘alert’ to his readers. I think he is a clown, but anyone who denies what happens to a comments page when Drugde links a story ‘needs his head examined’. There is tidal surge of mass ignorance that follows a Drudge link like the Tsunami that follows an earthquake.
Not entirely true, Drudge also lables his links, often times to give a paranoia fueled ‘alert’ to his readers. I think he is a clown, but anyone who denies what happens to a comments page when Drugde links a story ‘needs his head examined’. There is tidal surge of mass ignorance that follows a Drudge link like the Tsunami that follows an earthquake.
May 10, 2011 at 9:45 am | |
LindaInUpstateNY
well, at least now we’ll know when to throw the phone in the ditch & hide from the govt.
well, at least now we’ll know when to throw the phone in the ditch & hide from the govt.
May 10, 2011 at 9:46 am | |
Cliff
Um, you’re wanting the government to send you a message any time they feel that you are at risk of …something? I’d say that YOU are the paranoid one in this scenario.
Um, you’re wanting the government to send you a message any time they feel that you are at risk of …something? I’d say that YOU are the paranoid one in this scenario.
May 10, 2011 at 10:13 am | |
jeb
9/11 a conjob? YOU are moron.
9/11 a conjob? YOU are moron.
May 10, 2011 at 10:16 am | |
ME
Idiot.
Idiot.
May 10, 2011 at 10:40 am | |
Sunny Shakula
Excellent quote and point Katie – I agree!
Excellent quote and point Katie – I agree!
May 10, 2011 at 10:27 am | |
Michele
Teach Katie! Amen!
Teach Katie! Amen!
May 10, 2011 at 10:30 am | |
patrick uzzell
beautiful
beautiful
May 10, 2011 at 10:36 am | |
JT
Katie,
The only way to get government out of your life is to kill it. It is like a noxious weed that no matter how you hack at it, prune it back, unless the root is destroyed, it will always be back.
Stop complaining about their actions.
Stop complying.with their demands. Get a little bit of 1776 in your gut.
Katie,
The only way to get government out of your life is to kill it. It is like a noxious weed that no matter how you hack at it, prune it back, unless the root is destroyed, it will always be back.
Stop complaining about their actions.
Stop complying.with their demands. Get a little bit of 1776 in your gut.
May 10, 2011 at 11:06 am | |
KJ
Religious freak! You believe what you want but don’t get in the way of mankind’s progress and my right to enjoy life, family and my personal beliefs.
Religious freak! You believe what you want but don’t get in the way of mankind’s progress and my right to enjoy life, family and my personal beliefs.
May 10, 2011 at 11:11 am | |
Voyager
KJ,
Guess what the cost of Big Government is? Everybody and their aunt, uncle, and annoying nephews sticking their nose into your life. Even the, ah, how did you put it, “Religious Freaks” have a right to intervene in your life when they are the ones paying for it.
Welcome to Utopia.
KJ,
Guess what the cost of Big Government is? Everybody and their aunt, uncle, and annoying nephews sticking their nose into your life. Even the, ah, how did you put it, “Religious Freaks” have a right to intervene in your life when they are the ones paying for it.
Welcome to Utopia.
May 10, 2011 at 11:21 am | |
Pancho
Thank you you hit the nail on the Head
Thank you you hit the nail on the Head
May 10, 2011 at 11:25 am | |
V
any time your phone is between 3 cell towers, you can be tracked. Doesn’t matter what software or what phone you have. The reason your phone stopped working is the cell companies stopped broadcasting on that frequency. A cell phone is just a glorified walkie talkie.
any time your phone is between 3 cell towers, you can be tracked. Doesn’t matter what software or what phone you have. The reason your phone stopped working is the cell companies stopped broadcasting on that frequency. A cell phone is just a glorified walkie talkie.
May 10, 2011 at 10:44 am | |
Lester Minortay
Look upwhen safelink started…hint-not during Obamas term
Look upwhen safelink started…hint-not during Obamas term
May 10, 2011 at 10:45 am | |
Lester Minortay
Safelink was started in 1996 under a plan put in place by Reagan—-There is no “Obama phone” or other newly created federal program to provide free cell phones. As you may know, this is a myth that is now circulating on the Web via email and blog sites. It has been thoroughly debunked by independent groups. (See for example: FactCheck.org at http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/, which notes: “Low-income households have been eligible for discounted telephone service for more than a decade. But the program is funded by telecom companies, not by taxes, and the president has nothing to do with it.”
The federal “Lifeline” program was created during the Reagan Administration. Lifeline is a federal program created by the Reagan era Federal Communications Commission (FCC) in 1984. The program was enhanced under Telecommunications Act of 1996, which was supported on a broadly bipartisan basis in Congress. The FCC’s Low Income Program of the Universal Service Fund, which is administered by the Universal Service Administrative Company (USAC), is designed to ensure that quality telecommunications services are available to low-income customers at just, reasonable, and affordable rates. Lifeline support reduces eligible low-income consumers’ monthly charges for basic telephone service.
Safelink was started in 1996 under a plan put in place by Reagan—-There is no “Obama phone” or other newly created federal program to provide free cell phones. As you may know, this is a myth that is now circulating on the Web via email and blog sites. It has been thoroughly debunked by independent groups. (See for example: FactCheck.org at http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-phone/, which notes: “Low-income households have been eligible for discounted telephone service for more than a decade. But the program is funded by telecom companies, not by taxes, and the president has nothing to do with it.”
The federal “Lifeline” program was created during the Reagan Administration. Lifeline is a federal program created by the Reagan era Federal Communications Commission (FCC) in 1984. The program was enhanced under Telecommunications Act of 1996, which was supported on a broadly bipartisan basis in Congress. The FCC’s Low Income Program of the Universal Service Fund, which is administered by the Universal Service Administrative Company (USAC), is designed to ensure that quality telecommunications services are available to low-income customers at just, reasonable, and affordable rates. Lifeline support reduces eligible low-income consumers’ monthly charges for basic telephone service.
May 10, 2011 at 10:47 am | |
pablo
believe it or not, it’s a program that was started by Reagan an is paid for by private corporations! Obama doesn’t give people free phones. Revisionist history for the win!
believe it or not, it’s a program that was started by Reagan an is paid for by private corporations! Obama doesn’t give people free phones. Revisionist history for the win!
May 10, 2011 at 10:45 am | |
Savetheplace
Pablo is right, the ubiquity of mobile phones during the Reagan Administration forced the development of this policy. Wow, great insight and way to keep this in context, Pablo. Don’t we revisionists all feel stupid now.
Pablo is right, the ubiquity of mobile phones during the Reagan Administration forced the development of this policy. Wow, great insight and way to keep this in context, Pablo. Don’t we revisionists all feel stupid now.
May 10, 2011 at 10:56 am | |
Leon in Texas
This it..Big Brother is in our cell phones and how convienet just before a presdential election and those to come. Lets block the prez on this one !
This it..Big Brother is in our cell phones and how convienet just before a presdential election and those to come. Lets block the prez on this one !
May 10, 2011 at 10:55 am | |
Robert
I am going to have to dust off that book George Orwell wrote and see what next those looking after me have in store.
I am going to have to dust off that book George Orwell wrote and see what next those looking after me have in store.
May 10, 2011 at 11:16 am | |
Clint
Yeah!! I remember I called Ben Franklin one time and he had that quote on his voice mail! (the point, so you don’t miss it, is that anyone who tells you that Benjamin Franklin would or would not have supported emergency alerts on cell phones is talking out of his a$$.)
I can tell you what Benjamin Franklin apparently did not support: Womens suffrage. (the point, so you don’t miss this one either, is that anyone who believes the founding fathers to be infallible should have to only look as far as all of the amendments which have been necessary since the Constitution was ratified).
You can’t just back up your position by saying “those old rich white men supported it 200 years ago!!” Its 2011, you’re going to need more intellectual firepower than that (see: Sarah Palin). I can’t believe America has become a place where the inmates run the asylum. THINK before you DECIDE, people.
Yeah!! I remember I called Ben Franklin one time and he had that quote on his voice mail! (the point, so you don’t miss it, is that anyone who tells you that Benjamin Franklin would or would not have supported emergency alerts on cell phones is talking out of his a$$.)
I can tell you what Benjamin Franklin apparently did not support: Womens suffrage. (the point, so you don’t miss this one either, is that anyone who believes the founding fathers to be infallible should have to only look as far as all of the amendments which have been necessary since the Constitution was ratified).
You can’t just back up your position by saying “those old rich white men supported it 200 years ago!!” Its 2011, you’re going to need more intellectual firepower than that (see: Sarah Palin). I can’t believe America has become a place where the inmates run the asylum. THINK before you DECIDE, people.
May 10, 2011 at 1:24 pm | |
Mutzter
Amen on the quote, Jeff.
I’m more of a Herman Cain guy myself though.
Amen on the quote, Jeff.
I’m more of a Herman Cain guy myself though.
May 10, 2011 at 2:22 pm | |
bubba-thump
wrong. they were watching rerun of “dancing with the stars”, they were gasping when one of the contestants, Kirsty Ally’s partner slipped and fell.
wrong. they were watching rerun of “dancing with the stars”, they were gasping when one of the contestants, Kirsty Ally’s partner slipped and fell.
May 10, 2011 at 10:59 am | |
bambam
Why can one opt out of all alerts except presidential messages ?
Why can one opt out of all alerts except presidential messages ?
May 10, 2011 at 11:09 am | |
umustbkidding
So are we going to do anything about it or are we just complainers?
If there is anyone out there that has a clue what the step is to stop this then please speak up. Let us know.
So are we going to do anything about it or are we just complainers?
If there is anyone out there that has a clue what the step is to stop this then please speak up. Let us know.
May 10, 2011 at 11:32 am | |
J. Lorraine
It’s funny that no matter which side of things you stand on, the opposition believes you are being duped.
It’s funny that no matter which side of things you stand on, the opposition believes you are being duped.
May 10, 2011 at 11:33 am | |
kaye
heck I have trouble remembering to recharge the battery let alone turning the darn thing on.
heck I have trouble remembering to recharge the battery let alone turning the darn thing on.
May 10, 2011 at 11:44 am | |
jim
I agree with you 100%, lets go sheep!!!!
I agree with you 100%, lets go sheep!!!!
May 10, 2011 at 11:56 am | |
ByteRider
As a cell phone protocol expert, John, they can already do that. Duh. If you have GPS in your cell phone, your location can be had even with your cell phone turned off.
If you don’t have GPS in your cell, they can triangulate you based on the nearby BSTs [base station towers.. those big ugly cell phone towers you see]. Although more difficult, they can track you to within 30 yards of your location that way.
As a cell phone protocol expert, John, they can already do that. Duh. If you have GPS in your cell phone, your location can be had even with your cell phone turned off.
If you don’t have GPS in your cell, they can triangulate you based on the nearby BSTs [base station towers.. those big ugly cell phone towers you see]. Although more difficult, they can track you to within 30 yards of your location that way.
May 10, 2011 at 4:04 pm | |
D Frankin
True.
True.
May 10, 2011 at 11:11 am | |
retrocon
Not only will you pay for it, at some point, if Obamacare does not get shot down by the SCOTUS, you will be required to buy a cellphone that supports this system – out of your own pocket. This will be based on the “commerce” argument that the government cannot protect you adequately without one, and if they can’t protect you adequately, you will incur additional costs that affect all other citizens. That’s the Obamacare argument.
Not only will you pay for it, at some point, if Obamacare does not get shot down by the SCOTUS, you will be required to buy a cellphone that supports this system – out of your own pocket. This will be based on the “commerce” argument that the government cannot protect you adequately without one, and if they can’t protect you adequately, you will incur additional costs that affect all other citizens. That’s the Obamacare argument.
May 10, 2011 at 12:59 pm | |
KJ
Voyager – we’ll have to agree to disagree. I have the right to “opt-out” of almost everything including the notification network.
If I earn very little, the government pays me back in credits than I paid in taxes. In my case, I earn quite a bit and happily pay my taxes so no, you aren’t paying for me. I’d willingly pay more too if that’s what the tax code decreed -up to a limit of course. If you want to live in freedom, there are countries in Africa (Somolia comes to mind) where the government is so weak that you can do whatever you want to whoever you want. I suggest you go live there.
Voyager – we’ll have to agree to disagree. I have the right to “opt-out” of almost everything including the notification network.
If I earn very little, the government pays me back in credits than I paid in taxes. In my case, I earn quite a bit and happily pay my taxes so no, you aren’t paying for me. I’d willingly pay more too if that’s what the tax code decreed -up to a limit of course. If you want to live in freedom, there are countries in Africa (Somolia comes to mind) where the government is so weak that you can do whatever you want to whoever you want. I suggest you go live there.
May 10, 2011 at 2:28 pm | |
2little2late
JT
I am sure there are families of 3,000 + people who only wished their lost loved ones on 9/11 could have recieved a warning call telling them to vacate the building. I PERSONALLY had friends who perished because the started down the north tower and came back up because there was no way to know. And since I can be tracked everytime I pay a toll or make a call already, I prefer to put my phone to further good use.. All you conspiracy theory paranoid people, how do you sleep at night??? You do realize you play right into the hands of those in other parts of the world who would love to see us as a nation fall. I have one simple remedy for you. Since life is so tough for you here…move, become a citizen of another country, maybe Iraq or Afganistan would suit you. Anywhere but here, you have no value to this country. See how much better life is elsewhere , you certainly are of no use here.
JT
I am sure there are families of 3,000 + people who only wished their lost loved ones on 9/11 could have recieved a warning call telling them to vacate the building. I PERSONALLY had friends who perished because the started down the north tower and came back up because there was no way to know. And since I can be tracked everytime I pay a toll or make a call already, I prefer to put my phone to further good use.. All you conspiracy theory paranoid people, how do you sleep at night??? You do realize you play right into the hands of those in other parts of the world who would love to see us as a nation fall. I have one simple remedy for you. Since life is so tough for you here…move, become a citizen of another country, maybe Iraq or Afganistan would suit you. Anywhere but here, you have no value to this country. See how much better life is elsewhere , you certainly are of no use here.
May 10, 2011 at 2:39 pm | |
BlancoBuster
One new text from: “Big Brother” – “Hai gais, jus wanted 2 check if u all are still scared, if not, AL QUEDA IS RIGHT BEHIND YOU!!” luv u
One new text from: “Big Brother” – “Hai gais, jus wanted 2 check if u all are still scared, if not, AL QUEDA IS RIGHT BEHIND YOU!!” luv u
May 10, 2011 at 3:12 pm | |
Cowboy
Another liberal who demands you leave if you dare to insist on your individual freedoms.
Why does it need to be REQUIRED? You could have your warnings without forcing it on everyone… In fact, your phone can receive text already…
Another liberal who demands you leave if you dare to insist on your individual freedoms.
Why does it need to be REQUIRED? You could have your warnings without forcing it on everyone… In fact, your phone can receive text already…
May 10, 2011 at 3:27 pm | |
Naturally, the cost for this fund is passed to the paying customers.
In 2008, the Federal Communications Commission began subsidizing cell phones for low-income households, and the controls over eligibility are loosely enforced. According to Heritage welfare expert Robert Rector, this means that if an individual’s income increases to where he or she is no longer eligible for the service, there is no one to make sure he or she stops receiving it.
Just big government creating another ‘right’ that others must pay for…
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